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Fails WP:GNG since coverage from reliable sources is clearly lacking. Not sure if the subject is notable enough to warrant a standalone article. CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and New Jersey. CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The subject would be considered notable. If citations are not done correctly, please let me know but notability is not a question. I personally like to focus on notable individuals and landmarks based in the DC region. The subject would be considered notable in business based in the DC Region.

  I bring up the following regarding notability:

  -the individual was published by JP Morgan Chase (has a wiki) for being a top producer, producing over half a billion in loans in 5 years. That number being produced by a single individual would not only make the individual top producer at JP Morgan Chase, but a top producer across any company in finance. With inflation, that would mean the money generated then would be over 800 million today. That number being produced today by one person would be unheard of in finance.

  -the individual is seen in a photo being awarded by Charles Scharf (has a wiki) the current CEO and President of Wells Fargo (has a wiki). Wells Fargo and the CEO of Wells Fargo are again notable individuals. There are not many photos of non-notable individuals being awarded or seen with the current CEO of Wells Fargo

  -the individual sits on the executive board of a nonprofit owned and ran by a notable WNBA (has a wiki) legend, Sonia Chase (has a wiki).

  Regarding Citations:

  I did my best to not use sources that are pulled from personal websites. I used sources that would be reliable and open to the public:

  -Regarding personal life and family: i used newspaper clippings from a Montclair NJ newspaper that was archived by the Jewish Federation (has a wiki), and for education i found records in the archives of rutgers uni (has a wiki). Information about his wife is published by the JSSA (which has a wiki)

  -for career, I used JP Morgan Chase (has a wiki) published material. Those materials are cited and copies of these are found in wikicommons. They include a letter from Thomas Garvey who was the Executive Vice President of JP Morgan Chase and President of Chase Retail Mortgage. It also includes JP Morgan Chase's article publication Financial Alternatives, also found in wiki commons.

  - Regarding current companies, current living location and aviation, these were all pulled from State of Maryland and USA Federal government websites that have public record of companies filed, current address, aviation licenses and owned aircrafts.

  -Regarding his non-profit work, his position is found on the website of the nonprofit, and there is an article that discusses the nonprofit published by a news website owned by Hubbard Broadcasting INc (has a wiki) Gheleebtariq (talk) 23:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  People don't meet Wikipedia's definition of notability by being written about our receiving awards from their own employers or by being photographed with important people. Besides being reliable, sources for notability have to be independent of the subject. Largoplazo (talk) 02:26, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: I'm not sure property tax records and gov't records are what we're looking for under sourcing... I don't find anything about this person. Oaktree b (talk) 00:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  State assessment records and government records are for only current pilot license, aircraft ownership and living information. Most of the records pertaining to notability and life of the contact is credible sources. I am not being provided with information about what can be done to improve the page or what is missing. I am being given general opinions. The individual is affiliated with Charles Scharf (CEO of Wells Fargo), Tom Harvey (EVP of JP Morgan and President of Chase Mortgage) and Sonia Chase (WNBA). Sources that prove notability are JP Morgan Chase and Hubbard Broadcasting. Supporting/Supplemental sources for the extra info in the bio are Rutgers University, the Jewish Social Service Agency (JSSA), FAA, and State of Maryland. I would like to point out that there are plenty of wiki articles that exist with few credible resources, containing resources that are questionable. In this case, sources for the subject that discuss their accomplishments are coming from JP Morgan Chase directly. This is one of the largest banks in the world. And the individual is pictured with the biggest names in banking. If you were to search in wiki-commons for Kenneth Brown, you will see that they are note worthy as they are found with the historic executives of JP Morgan Chase. These sources are found on wiki commons. Again, if there are questions of credibility of sources or incorrectness of citations, please provide specifics. All I am seeing are general and quick blanket statements that do not address the points of issues that can be fixed. Are publications by JP Morgan Chase not credible? Are publications that the executives of JP Morgan Chase make not credible? Are records kept by the Jewish Social Service Agency (JSSA) and Hubbard Broadcasting not credible? Is Sonia Chase of the WNBA not credible? If the answer to all these questions are yes, then I have a framework to work with to improve the article or at least question the subject. But so far, the first person to question the page states they are "Not sure if the subject is notable enough to warrant a standalone article", and the second person states "I'm not sure property tax records and gov't records are what we're looking for under sourcing" when those sources are supplement to provide details on their personal life and not so much the main details - which is career. In the washington DC area, and in banking nationally, people in banking know this individual. And clearly, the subject would not have photos with the CEO of Wells Fargo, the EVP of JP Morgan Chase and President of Chase Mortgage, and photos with WNBA player Sonia Chase if this was an insignificant person. Given that in (todays money with adjustment for inflation), they themselves have generated nearly a billion dollars in 5 years for a bank is notable for anyone on a global scale. This accomplishment is unheard by even the highest standards today. For sure it is notable for any bank (especially one of the largest banks in the world). If you object, please provide a bulleted list that is constructive that I can use to improve the page, rather than generic statements. I do not believe this page should be taken down, as this is someone who is not only accomplished globally in a competitive field for a company known around the world, but this person is also well respected in their field on a regional level. Gheleebtariq (talk) 02:02, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]