Talk:Neneh Cherry

Is Cherry's birthday correctly listed? I was just listening to KCRW and d.j. Nic Harcourt mentioned today (10 Aug) as being her birthday. (18:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC))

There's nothing in the article that even mentions bisexuality and homosexuality. So why is she tagged as a "Bisexual Musician"? Anyone have anything to back that up? Trimp 01:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

I seem to remember the content which once backed that up was deleted, without comment, a little while ago. Notinasnaid 07:09, 27 October 2006 (UTC) My mistake: I was thinking of another article. I will remove the category immediately under the rules of Wikipedia:Biography of living persons. Such things must be sourced. Notinasnaid 07:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

She has spoken in the press about her bisexuality on several occasions; here's just one refernce to it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/2004/may/09/featuresreview.review Vauxhall1964 (talk) 09:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Yes, this remark is right, same as one said about the Label 'New Wool', in Spanish: 'Lana Virgen': 'Virgin Wool', it's no affair of yours what the sheep can do at night, and about this, nothing better than a sentence in the song by Georges Brassens: '95%' -Quatre-vingt-quinze fois sur cent': 'De ce petit m'as-tu-vu quand je baise?' btw: What's the origin, and meaning of name: 'Neneh'? In Spanish, this can be heard as: 'Nené', a diminutive for 'Asunción'. Thanks. Salut +

I've just modified the article, because someone anonymously wrote that Lola Moon is Neneh and Cameron McVey's daugther. This is wrong!!! Neneh's 3 children are Naima (20), Tyson (14) and Mabel (7). Lolita Moon is a stage name. her real name has never been given. like burt ford is really cameron mcvey! the children's correct ages are Naima (25), Tyson (18) and Mabel (10)

Lolita Moon is Tyson.

http://www.girls-rock.net/2009/03/25/lolita-moon-cirkus-brest-la-carene-2009/ DavidRavenMoon (talk) 20:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

So, is it Mariann or Marianne ?

Derek R Bullamore 01:02, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Again, Georges Brassens: 'Que ça c'est vu dans le passé, Marianne soit renversée. Que la couronne d'Angleterre, ce soir, demain roule par terre, Mais il y a peu de chances qu'on détrône le Roi des cons. Il peut dormir ce souverain sur ses deux oreilles serein'

From: http://www.trilokgurtu.net/biography.htm : Trilok Gurtu was born (...) in Bombay, India(...). He began to play practically from infancy at the age of six. Eventually Trilok traveled to Europe, joining up with trumpeter Don Cherry (father of Neneh and Eagle Eye) for two years (...).

This was in the seventies: From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilok_Gurtu "In the 1970s he (Trilok) played with (...) Don Cherry.

From http://www.trilokgurtu.net/new_release.htm : "Ganapati" recorded in 1998 from "Kathak" Mintaka Recordings The Kathak CD features Trilok in the company of his band at the time, The Glimpse. Ganapati features the voice of Neneh Cherry and is dedicated to the memory of her stepfather, the great innovative Jazz man, Don Cherry, who had been instrumental in bringing Trilok to the West. (...) "Neneh was almost in tears as she sang”.

Lots of LOVE from Robin Timmers robintimmers@gmail.com http://robin-timmers.blogspot.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robintimmers (talk • contribs) 23:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Today i removed the sentence: "Lyme disease kept her away from the limelight until 1992." from the section on her album "Raw like Sushi".

It was an unsourced claim, however a quick Google search found several hits suggesting she indeed contracted Lyme disease sometime during the album's release. My main concern in removing it was that it is currently written as a silly play on the words "limelight" and Lyme disease. Clearly, this is unencyclopedic, and could be deemed offensive.

If a reference to an illness is appropriate, it should be appropriately written and sourced.

Ramurf (talk) 04:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Did Neneh Cherry really grow up in Pudsey, West Yorkshire? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.161.99 (talk) 09:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

I added her duet with Matt Johnson of The The on the song Slow Train To Dawn from The The's Infected album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zencycle (talk • contribs) 17:29, 3 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Neneh was a member of the New Age Steppers working with Arianna Foster (Ari Up) from the projects inception. Prior to that Neneh worked with Rip Rig and Panic also. whilst not giving any great detail this information is included in the New Age Steppers and Rip Rig and Panic pages here on Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age_Steppers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rip_Rig_%2B_Panic

New Age Steppers was an on-U-sound project and Rip Rig and Panic came from Bristol, for anyone wanting to fill in the details.

78.150.61.255 (talk) 20:20, 22 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

The Neneh article has said for a while that she will release an EP, then an LP. Does anyone know an update about her LP? Also, Cherry never released the EP in 2015. Can someone please update the upcoming work section? contribs) 2:34, 24 May 2016 (UTC) LucilleBall (talk) 14:55, 24 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Is it worth mentioning about Lara Croft on her page? --TudorTulok (talk) 23:26, 29 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

• Nqr9, in your edit summary, you began your rationale with "this information is factual" but then you immediately followed it with: "It does not currently have references to support it..." Well...it isn't factual then, is it? You were able to find a source for a previously deleted blurb, so it would be only fair for you to do the same thing for this; if you can't, it would be best to leave it out of the article. Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 16:46, 16 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

I left a comment on your talk page about this. There is absolutely no contention as to whether Cameron McVey has collaborated musically with Neneh Cherry, and I've linked a reference in the comment to demonstrate that. It seems evident to me that you've not made any attempt yourself to verify whether the information could be correct before removing it - I suggest you do that when removing unsourced content from articles on topics you're not intricately familiar with; adding a 'citation needed' tag would be better in such instances if the information is not easily identifiable as fictitious or vandalism.Nqr9 (talk) 16:56, 16 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

I'm sorry; you're complaining that I removed unsourced content? If such content is challenged but you think it should stay, it's up to you to find a source for it, not me. Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 17:06, 16 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

I understand that. But not every statement on every article is sourced. By your reasoning, it would be fine for an editor to remove any unsourced statement from any article, even when they have no real knowledge of the topic (as seems to be the case with you and Neneh Cherry). There's a world of difference between removing questionable or controversial statements that are unsourced, and removing information that is probably true without even checking for its veracity. There has never been e.g. any contention over whether Neneh Cherry collaborated musically with her husband, Cameron McVey, as his name appears all over the credits of her albums. Of course the claim benefits from being supported by a reference, but the appropriate thing to do, if you feel such a claim needs a reference is to (after doing some cursory research yourself to establish whether the statement could be true, if you don't already know, before removing it) tag it with a citation needed tag; not to remove a whole paragraph of text just because nobody has added references to support it. I wouldn't remove information from a topic I'm not well-acquainted with without first checking whether it could be true (if it is not obviously vandalism/posted by someone with a history of vandalism, or a new IP address user).Nqr9 (talk) 04:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

"By your reasoning, it would be fine for an editor to remove any unsourced statement from any article." No, not according to my reasoning; according to Wikipedia's reasoning. In the words of Template:Unreferenced:

In addition, you have no idea how much knowledge I have about Neneh Cherry, so I suggest you chill out with edit summaries like this. Erpert ^{blah, blah, blah...} 10:36, 18 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Instead of removing content that you identify as being unsourced, why don't you instead place a citation needed tag beside it, or add a tag to the section/article that it needs more references. That's more constructive than removing a paragraph of information just because it has no supporting sources cited. As I have mentioned, if you e.g. googled 'neneh cherry cameron mcvey', you would quickly find articles mentioning that the husband and wife pair have collaborated together musically. If I was going to remove material from an article because I thought it was false, I would at least first check whether it might be correct (unless it is obviously vandalism); I wouldn't just remove it. Maybe you should change your method of challenging material - first check its validity yourself, then tag if it could be plausible but you haven't yet found any strong evidence, and then remove it if no-one adds any supporting sources, say, within a month or two.Nqr9 (talk) 10:47, 18 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

I'm with User talk:Nqr9 here. Challenged, and then removed. Well, unless it's an egregious untruth. Evidently not the case here. Wwwhatsup (talk) 08:58, 19 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

I think it would be helpful for many readers if the article included the pronunciation of her first name. —⁠172.58.230.141 (talk) 21:58, 8 June 2021 (UTC)Reply