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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:58, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pavel Abramov

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The subject does not have enough news coverage. Mysecretgarden (talk) 23:06, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 01:16, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dmitri Pestryakov

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I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this Russian footballer. Seems like the article creator moved the draft to the mainspace. JTtheOG (talk) 01:40, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

.рус

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No good sources, seems to fail WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. The article literally says, twice, that there is a lack of information for use in writing about it.. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 13:35, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Murad Ramazanov (fighter)

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Fails to fulfill WP:MMANOT with no wins over significant opponents, bouts only in the second tier organizations and FightMatrix ranking of #65 at highest. Also, does not seem to fulfill WP:GNG or WP:BIO. Ticelon (talk) 10:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Martial arts, Wrestling, and Russia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete doesn't meet WP:NMMA (or WP:GNG), as he ranked #65 in the world according to fight matrix. Lekkha Moun (talk) 07:50, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Clearly fails to meet WP:NMMA. My search for sources found databases, fight announcements, and results--all of which are typical for any pro fighter. In addition, most of the references are from sources that are either deemed not reliable (like sportskeeda) or not independent (particularly One FC's articles). His ranking is probably overstated at fightmatrix since it lists 4 Russian fighters named Murad Ramazanov, all with non-overlapping fight records (which probably explains the one fight in 5 years gap in the main fighter's records). Counting the fights in the gap he no longer has his long unbeaten string or 12-2 professional record, because fightmatrix shows a 2-3 records for those "other" fighters with the same name. Papaursa (talk) 15:54, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    None of the Murad Ramazanov's are the same person, that region of Russia has many guys who share the same last names or first names, it's like Viet people and the last name Nguyen. There are pictures of the other Ramazanov's in tapology and sherdog, showing it's not the same Murad in PFL, especially since he has a distinctive look.
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    Murad 1 and 2 are the same person, but not the PFL Murad, and Murad 3 is a completely different guy at a different weight class HeinzMaster (talk) 16:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you HeinzMaster for the additional information. I guess the bottom line is still that none of the Murad Ramazanov fighters are WP notable. Papaursa (talk) 20:32, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1950s as a sensible ATD. Owen× ☎ 23:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1952 Leningrad mid-air collision

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per WP:GNG failure to site verifiable sources and lack of secondary sources, as shown before, the soviet union was incredibly secretive and tight lipped about tragedies, especially aviation tragedies, that took place in the soviet union. Lolzer3k 15:17, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was draftify‎. ✗plicit 00:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Irina Mataeva

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Article is written like a resume and based on sources connected to the subject. Not clear the article passes WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 14:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Userfy. We need more research. Right now, the article is in pretty bad shape. However, if she does have this wide range of repertoire, and she has toured and performed in multiple cities with important companies, and she had a role of the protagonist’s love interest of Tatyana in Eugene Onegin, and we can find sources that document all of it, then she is notable per WP:MUSICBIO. That’s a lot of work. Bearian (talk) 02:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bearian I would support moving it to user or draft space if someone wants to work on it and needs time to source the article. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:02, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Not sure if I can do it, due to being busy IRL. Bearian (talk) 18:32, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify seems like a good solution; if no one works on it for 6 months, it gets deleted. A quick search on ProQuest yields 115 results, many of which include substantive comments about Irina Mataeva's performances in those lead roles. Cielquiparle (talk) 21:05, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elena Pankratova

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Article is largely built from the website's of the subjects employers and therefore they lack independence. Not clear the subject passes WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 14:14, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1950s. Liz Read! Talk! 04:54, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aeroflot Flight 31

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Per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT: A search reveals that there exists no (significant) news coverage of the event, no secondary sources, no in-depth coverage, no continued coverage, no demonstrated lasting effects and no long-term impact on a significant region of the world that would make this event notable enough for a stand-alone article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 07:11, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1950s. There was some information in the article missing from the table, but I've already copied it over. --Ahecht (TALK
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 08:15, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amar Abba

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No secondary sources, unacceptable for a BLP. Per WP:PRIMARY: "do not base an entire article on primary sources" - this is particularly important for BLPs. Fails WP:BASIC as lacking "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject". AusLondonder (talk) 08:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Editors may additionally want to consider whether the entry for this incident at Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1950s should be removed, given the sourcing concerns. asilvering (talk) 02:44, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1952 Aeroflot Ilyushin Il-12 crash

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Per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT: There exists no (significant) news coverage of the event, no secondary sources, no in-depth coverage, no continued coverage, no demonstrated lasting effects and no long-term impact on a significant region of the world that would make this event notable enough for a stand-alone article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per WP:N. The Soviet Union was notoriously tight-lipped about aviation accidents that occurred in that era, and many domestic accidents were never widely reported. This article is based primarily on what appears on the airdisaster.ru website, which was briefly discussed at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_446#airdisaster.ru a couple of months ago. I found that discussion by searching for such a discussion, as my gut feeling was already telling me that this isn't a reliable source, and the "sources of information" field on the entry on that site has been left blank. I've spent some time trying to find even a brief mention of this accident in reliable sources, and have failed. While Wikipedia's notability guideline is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the current state of sourcing in an article, the policy does state that information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. RecycledPixels (talk) 18:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. It is unlikely we will gain access to Russian language sourcing with the lack of input so far. Happy to treat this as a soft deletion and restore upon request especially if sourcing is found. Star Mississippi 17:28, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of entertainment events at the Olimpiyskiy Stadium

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List of entertainment events at the Olimpiyskiy Stadium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. No inclusion criteria, very weak referencing. mikeblas (talk) 14:43, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. I can't find any sources discussing this set of events as a group, so ultimately this article violates WP:NOR and fails WP:NLIST. (I also don't see any meaningful navigational value per WP:LISTPURP.) Obviously, notable acts can be discussed at the main page for the stadium. My one caveat - if there are sources in Russian that anyone turns up I am open to revisiting my !vote. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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