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== Topics for future discussion ==

* Collaboration with galleries, libraries, archives, museums, universities, and various other institutions (e.g. [[Wikipedia:GLAM/NMM]])
* Article improvement drives
* Notability guideline for battles
* Naming convention guideline for foreign military ranks
* Using the "Results" field in infoboxes
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* Encouraging member participation in the various review processes (peer, GAN, ACR etc)
* Recruiting new members (see [[User:The ed17/MILHIST]], etc.)
* Improving/maintaining popular pages
* Motivating improvement from Stub to B-Class
* Enabling editors to improve articles beyond B-Class (possibly utilising logistics dept, also see [[WP:FAT]] for related ideas)
* Helping new members (possibly involving improving/deprecating welcome template; writing Academy course)
* Recruiting copy-editors to help during ACR
* Recruiting editors from external forums/groups/etc.
* Simplifying ACR instructions ([[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Strategy/Archive 2#Encouraging review participation from less experienced reviewers|old discussion]])

== Missing academy articles ==

* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Academy/Using different reference formats]] (partially written/needs expansion)
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Academy/Image restoration]] (partially written)
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Academy/Using supporting materials|Using supporting materials]] (possibly not needed/covered by other topics)
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Academy/Image quality and accuracy|Image quality and accuracy]] (possibly not needed/covered by other topics)

==Open award nominations==
Nominations for awards are made and voted on by coordinators at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history/Awards]]. An A-Class Medal nomination needs at least two coordinators' votes to succeed, and the Chevrons with Oak Leaves a majority of coordinators' votes. All coordinators are requested to review the following:

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* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Henry Biard]] has only one support (from me) and is highly unlikely to get any more. Open for 9 months now. Seeking consensus to fail this nom. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 18:07, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

::{{ping|Matarisvan}}. I agree that this is unlikely to get the needed supports. Two other coordinators looked at it, commented and ultimately did not support. I think the problem is the one raised by Hog Farm, that the person who is the subject of the article is not notable for his military service, per note 3 to area of focus number 2: "Military service does not in and of itself place an individual within the scope of the project—particularly in the case of service in modern militaries. To qualify them, an individual's military service must have been somehow noteworthy or have contributed—directly or indirectly—to their notability." [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 01:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Donner60|Donner60]], archiving this one since we have a quorum of 4 coords out of 7. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 17:33, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Miyoshi Nagayoshi]] has no supports and has been open for 4 months now. Seeking consensus to fail this nom. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 18:07, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
*:I think this is unlikely to get reviewed because almost all of the sources are in Japanese. The only English source that can be viewed as an online excerpt has only a few pages of information about Nagayoshi. The other two English language sources are books that few people are likely to own. The books may not provide a comprehensive look at the subject even if some potential reviewers own them. One seems to be a general type of Japanese military history overview; the other seems to deal mostly with religion. It is also a long article which could discourage reviewers, especially if unfamiliar with the subject. I don't know if there is any guideline about how long a request should go unnoticed before it ought to be failed. Maybe others would have some knowledge or experience with this. Otherwise, if no one else responds, I suggest that you wait until the request is at least six months old. After that much time with no activity, I think there is less likelihood that a fail, even with good reason, would be questioned as premature. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 01:55, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
*::The article looks fine though. Put out a request for help at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan]]. (Oddly, the nom does not claim to be able to read Japanese.) [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 02:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
*:::@[[User:Hawkeye7|Hawkeye7]] and @[[User:Donner60|Donner60]], I think we should wait a week for further reviews, that is till the 16th, and then archive this ACR. It has already been open for 5 months now and if any reviews were going to come, they would have. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 18:08, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
*:::: I think we mainly just need somebody who can read Japanese to check over the sourcing etc. to make sure there aren't non-starter issues and then it can proceed better. I haven't reviewed this one because I have no way of knowing if there are major issues hidden below the surface level or not, and I imagine others are in the same boat. [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] <sub> ''[[User talk:Hog Farm|Talk]]''</sub> 18:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
*:::::A plea to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan]], perhaps? [[User:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|Pickersgill-Cunliffe]] ([[User talk:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|talk]]) 18:34, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
*::::::@[[User:Hawkeye7|Hawkeye7]] has already posted a request for review there. No affirmative responses so far. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 18:44, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
*:::::::Should this assessment be archived now? There have been no reviews forthcoming from our project and from WikiProject Japan too. Also, the article needs much work on grammar and sourcing, and I'm willing to work on a peer review with the nominator to improve it. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 12:28, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

*[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Operation Matterhorn logistics]] looks good to go to me. [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] <sub> ''[[User talk:Hog Farm|Talk]]''</sub> 01:36, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
*:Agreed, has 3 supports and has passed image and source reviews. Closed as pass on 22 October. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 17:35, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/SPARS]] now has 3 supports, and has passed image and source reviews. Promoted to A class on 27 October. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 19:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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== Suggestions ==

{{@MILHIST}} Welcome to another year of coordinating! While I'm not looking to start anything immediately I want to raise the idea of some kind of drive or event during this term. Of our five major milestones only one remains; it might be nice to have a drive with the goal of furthering that? [[User:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|Pickersgill-Cunliffe]] ([[User talk:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|talk]]) 20:27, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

:I had been thinking along those lines. I am not sure how the 83.5% figure was arrived at. There are 227,416 articles in the project rated FA, A, GA, B, C, Start and Stub (ie excluding 5,708 lists and 90,811 templates, redirects, categories etc.) To get from 83.5 to 100.0 we need to lift the number of B class articles by about 20% ie 4,000 articles. Unlike the other goals, this one is a moving target.
:So how would we go about doing that?
:* One reservoir is the 64,240 C class articles. Some of them may already qualify as B-class, due to the MilHistBot being uncertain about the referencing. For example: [[1st Dorsetshire Artillery Volunteers]]. Others (more common), like [[1st Gloucestershire Engineer Volunteer Corps]] only need a couple of extra references. Most though, need a lot of work. Some are completely unreferenced. We could go through selecting articles that only need a bit of work.
:* We could also look at the stubs with a view to deleting or merging some. For example, [[Talk:1st Military District (Australia)]] contains a 2016 discussion of merging the Australian military districts into one article which was never performed.
:[[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 21:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
::Good ideas. Many years ago the rogue and banned editor Wild Wolf rated articles start and perhaps occasionally C at random without ever looking at them. He did several in a minute so coordinators and administrators warned him more than once before he was banned. He was also using sockpuppets. I stopped asking for reviews at that time although I am quite sure some of my articles then and later were B class. If I could find a little extra time, I think it would take little work for me to bring them up to B from later deterioration. Those are just a small number of the many that could be improved. I would hope that many editors would respond because many of these articles are on obscure topics with hard to find references. I doubt that I, for one, have or can easily find references for them if the problem is citation deficiency. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 22:08, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Exactly. Editors would have trouble finding references in subject areas in which they are unfamiliar, but more easily in subject areas within their field of expertise. So the approach I would suggest one of triage, where we work though the C class articles, discarding those requiring a lot of work, and categorising the rest according to topic area, so participating editors could take them on and correct them. [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 00:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Create a pre-arranged list of not-too-terrible C-class articles, and put them up in a drive for improvement? Coords could then be in charge of re-rating/checking for B-class once an editor has signified that the article has been actioned. Barnstars and leader boards as appropriate? [[User:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|Pickersgill-Cunliffe]] ([[User talk:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|talk]]) 19:17, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
::::: This sounds like a good idea to me. [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] <sub> ''[[User talk:Hog Farm|Talk]]''</sub> 19:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::I think the clearest way to organise the list would be with the task force topics. The question would be whether sections be created for all the task forces (there are a lot!) or only for one type of them? [[User:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|Pickersgill-Cunliffe]] ([[User talk:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|talk]]) 15:46, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::: How many of the task forces are still functionally used? I imagine it's only a fraction of the total ones. [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] <sub> ''[[User talk:Hog Farm|Talk]]''</sub> 19:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
:Hi coordinators, congrats to all elected in this tranche.  I have not been that active recently (and am not currently a coord) but thought I'd chime in on this.  I did do a bit of work monitoring our progress against this target in 2018-2019 ([[User:Dumelow/MILHIST B-class assessment stats]]); when we held a number of drives to try to clear the unassessed article backlog.  This helped to slowly chip away at the target, improving it from 72.1% in February 2018 to 76.9% by October 2019.  The November 2019 introduction of Milhistbot to automatically assess against the B-class criteria helped greatly (adding 1,500 new B-class articles) and led to a jump to 82.8% (we are currently at 83.4%).  I agree that it would be absolutely great to achieve this target and help to demonstrate the project is committed to bringing a good chunk of articles to a basic decent standard as well as the perhaps more visible successes achieved at GA and FA.  More than happy to help out assessing articles and chipping in with improvements if we can get a drive going.  One area I was monitoring at the time of the last push was [[:Category:Military history articles needing attention only to supporting materials]] which currently holds around 1,300 articles.  A good portion of these, in theory, need only an image or infobox to achieve the B-class standard - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 15:59, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
::That would, in my opinion, be a fantastic place to start. [[User:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|Pickersgill-Cunliffe]] ([[User talk:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|talk]]) 16:20, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Hi, chiming in late here. The ideas advanced above, namely the listing of C-class articles for improvement to B-class, and working on the articles requiring supporting materials, sound great to me. Also, working on articles which need work on article structure and grammar could be done concurrently; those requiring more citations or coverage could be done later if needed. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 16:44, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
::::I had the MilHistBot provide me a list of some of the low hanging fruit. It suggested articles like: 
::::* [[.345 Winchester Self-Loading]]
::::* [[1 July 2019 Kabul attack]]
::::* [[1/1st Hertfordshire Yeomanry]]
::::* [[1st Army Group Royal Artillery]]
::::* [[1st Anzac Entrenching Battalion]]
::::* [[1st Battalion Royal Irish Rifles in World War I]]
::::[[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 19:42, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::What kind of parameter are you using for that? [[User:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|Pickersgill-Cunliffe]] ([[User talk:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|talk]]) 19:59, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::I asked it to locate C-class articles that are fully or nearly fully referenced. [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 10:09, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I ran off another short list [[User:Hawkeye7/Sandbox7|here]]. The number in parentheses is the number of references that the Bot thinks are lacking. Plenty more where these came from, but most could be uplifted to B-class with a little effort. [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 00:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
{{od}}
In addition to, if you are looking for specific focal areas, you could have a look at the various Task Forces and their respective [[Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Assessment#WikiWork|WikiWork]] parameters: Cumulative WikiWork (ω) and Relative WikiWork (Ω). For example, the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/United States military history task force#Article statistics|United States military history task force]] indicated values of ω=302,399	and Ω=4.541. This task force alone accounts for approx. 28% of all military history articles while only 11.2% are B-class or higher. It would require improving approx. 2,500 articles within the United States military history task force to push this task force north of the 15% threshold. Food for thought. Cheers [[User:MisterBee1966|MisterBee1966]] ([[User talk:MisterBee1966|talk]]) 06:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

== ACR to-do list for October 2024 ==

{{@MILHIST}}I am a newly elected coord for WPMH. I'm taking the initiative to add this topic since the ACR to-do list for July 2024 above has been exhausted, it has only one task remaining, which I will cover below. Would be great to hear from other coords. Please feel to delete this introductory text once all other coords have read it.

* <s>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Henry Biard]]</s>: Open for 9 months now. Has only one support, unlikely to get any more since relevance to WPMH is disputed. Might be better for this article to go to FAC now. Asking for consensus on, unfortunately, archiving this ACR. Archived 11 October. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 17:38, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Miyoshi Nagayoshi]]: Open for 4 months now. Underlying article needs a lot of work, has no supports. Need consensus for failing this one.
* <s>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Ernest J. King]]:</s> Open for 4 months now. Has 3 supports and has passed source and image reviews. All reviews finished, changed to A-class=pass. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 22:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Lockheed YF-22]]: Open for 3 months now. Has passed source and image reviews, no supports as of now (reviewing this one soon).
* <s>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/SPARS]]</s>: Open for 2 months now. Has 3 supports, and has passed image and source reviews. Promoted to A class on 27 October. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 19:31, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
* <s>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Operation Matterhorn logistics]]</s>: Open for 1 month now. Has no reviews as of now. Has 3 supports and has passed source and image reviews. Promoted to A class on 22 October. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 17:49, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/USS Texas (BB-35)]]: Re-assessment, working on this one. ETA 1 month.
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/John S. McCain Sr.]]: Open for 1 month now. Has 1 support and has passed an image review. [[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 19:31, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

[[User:Matarisvan|Matarisvan]] ([[User talk:Matarisvan|talk]]) 16:59, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[:WP:HD#Problems moving an article due to a redirect|WP:HD §&nbsp;Problems moving an article due to a redirect]]==
[[File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg|25px|link=|alt=]]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at [[:WP:HD#Problems moving an article due to a redirect|WP:HD §&nbsp;Problems moving an article due to a redirect]]. --  [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 00:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC)<!-- [[Template:Please see]] -->
:Perhaps a MILHIST coordinator could take a look at this question posted at the Help Desk and provide some advice to the OP. In addition to the naming issue, there might also be a CONTENTFORK issue since most of the content in [[:User:Mr.Lovecraft/Construction site beta]] has the feel of stuff that might already be covered in existing Wikipedia articles about either the US Army itself or World War II. If that's the case, maybe it would be better to explain this to the OP sooner than later and spare them the surprise of having this moved to the mainspace only to see it subsequently merged, redirected, etc. by someone else. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 00:45, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
::I see that the author has moved this to the article title [[United States Army in World War II]]. I think the title is misleading. While much of the material is covered and I have other criticisms, a problem that I see initially is that this article is really only about the organization of the United States Army in World War II. It would be more accurate to add the words "Organization of the" to the title if it is to be retained in its current form and not distract readers from the comprehensive article on [[Military history of the United States during World War II]]. Ping other coordinators for specific notice if they wish to comment here or on discussion page. I will add my comment there. {{@MILHIST}} [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 00:37, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Donner60}} Thanks for taking a look at this. The HD discussion was archived and can now be found at [[:Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2024 October 7#Problems moving an article due to a redirect]]. The OP responded to your post, but I'm not sure they understood what you were trying to say. The article they created can now be found at [[:United States Army during World War II]]. Perhaps [[:Talk:United States Army during World War II]] is now the best place for you or any other members of MILHIST to comment on it or assess it. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 21:58, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
::::The name is like those of other countries, eg [[Australian Army during World War II]], [[British Army during the Second World War]]. [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 22:26, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Marchjuly|Hawkeye7}} I have added a see also section to this article with [[Military history of the United States during World War II]], and included in the edit summary "other articles about nation's armies in World War II are more comprehensive, this see also should direct interested readers to additional information." I think that should satisfy my concern and not leave readers without a link and article providing information other than just the organization. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 01:55, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

== November Bugle ==

I'm going to be travelling without Wikipedia access for the next month or so. Could one or two people please volunteer to help Ian with the next edition of the Bugle? I usually handle the book reviews, ACR blurbs and featured pictures. Thanks, [[User:Nick-D|Nick-D]] ([[User talk:Nick-D|talk]]) 00:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

:Happy to help if given a nudge closer to publishing. Am I right in saying {{u|Adam Cuerden}} has assisted with the pictures before? [[User:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|Pickersgill-Cunliffe]] ([[User talk:Pickersgill-Cunliffe|talk]]) 10:38, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
::In the apparent absence of a reply, I have looked at the featured pictures published in September and October. The following are two pictures added to the list of featured pictures in October but not published on the main page in October; these seem to be the types of pictures included in the Bugle's new featured pictures section:
::<nowiki><gallery mode=packed heights=200px></nowiki>
::File:British Columbia Regiment 1940.jpg|'''''[[Wait for Me, Daddy]]''''', by [[Claude P. Dettloff]] (restored by [[user:Yann|Yann]])
::File:Daddy, what did You do in the Great War?.jpg|'''"[[Daddy, What Did You Do in the Great War?]]"''', by [[Savile Lumley]]/Johnson, Riddle & Co. Ltd. (restored by [[user:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]])
::These are pictures that were published on the main page in October, but not included in those designated in October as well. So I think they were probably designated as new featured pictures in the Bugle in an earlier month:
::'''[[USS Johnston (DD-557)|USS ''Johnston'']]'''
::'''[[Archibald Sinclair, 1st Viscount Thurso]]'''
::I am reasonably sure that the first two would be the ones included in the November Bugle as new featured pictures for October, but not the second two. I am pinging {{ping|Adam Cuerden}}. Perhaps he can confirm that I have researched and analyzed this completely and correctly or whether I have missed something or otherwise come to an incorrect or incomplete conclusion. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 07:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
:This is the October issue we are talking about? [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 02:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
::In the absence of a reply, it appears to me that this would be October news, features, etc. in the November issue. The November issue template is not yet up as of a short time ago. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 07:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

== Quality content drive? ==

Question: Would there be any interest here is running a project backlog drive with the expressed goal of working through our quality content? We've had that "prior to 2016 it needs to be looked" at disclaimer, but not a lot of action on it, and I get the sense other project are having the same issue(s). If we could find enough support in our project for a drive that'd be great, but I'm thinking with so many articles in need of work we'll need to do some outreach to cover our bases. At a minimum, WP:GOCE should be contacted, but if there's interest here then perhaps we can count on some interest across the spectrum. If it should really blow up, I'd be prepared to give it a proper code name and split up the work into task forces for more manageable bytes. What do you think? [[User:TomStar81|TomStar81]] ([[User talk:TomStar81|Talk]]) 11:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

:An initial question: Would this be along the lines suggested by Pickersgill-Cunliffe in the "Suggestions" topic above or a separate drive? If two different types of drives are contemplated, I think they would need to be spaced some months apart to generate enough enthusiasm to make some real progress. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 03:32, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

::No, this'd be an independent drive with the objective of addressing articles listed at [[Wikipedia:Unreviewed featured articles/2020]]. This list has appeared for a few years in our news section with the byline "''Editors are advised that Featured Articles promoted before 2016 are in need of review, if you had an article promoted to Featured status on or before 2016 please check and update your article before they are listed at FAR/C.''". Ostensibly, the goal would be to coordinate efforts just within the existing batch there to clear our articles out of the list - although if the rest of the community (biography project, history project, women project, etc) were interested we could consider initiating a Wikipedia wide drive. Right now, I'm just trying to suss out if there is any interest in this particular avenue of work, or if the community wants to rally around a different group of articles to work on at the moment. [[User:TomStar81|TomStar81]] ([[User talk:TomStar81|Talk]]) 06:58, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks. I  do not see the byline under the News & Open Tasks tab or in the Bugle. I looked more closely and see it under the Discussion tab and in the template {{[[Template:WPMILHIST Announcements|WPMILHIST Announcements]]}}. Some members of the project know about this drive because I note contributions to/reviews by several current and former coordinators and experienced users in recent years but perhaps the byline about it could be inserted on the News & Open Tasks page or in the Bugle News section or both for greater exposure. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 07:06, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

==  Military historian and newcomer of the year election voting ==

{{@MILHIST}} When I documented the procedure for this last year, I said that voting was between 1 and 30 December but forgot to specify the nomination period. Would two weeks be sufficient? [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 01:36, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:Sure, that's enough time. [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]]  ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 03:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:I agree. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 03:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:Okay. I have updated the instructions accordingly. [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 05:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

== AutoCheck report for October ==

The following articles were rated as B class by automatic assessment:
** First two are B class in form but need some editing on sentence structure; I will work on that; last one has notability and references templates, most of the sources are foreign language, this needs further analysis, otherwise even if B class in form, it doesn't look quite that high; unusually short list by the bot this month. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 03:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
* [[Battle of LaFayette]]
* [[Siege of Parenda (1634)]]
* [[Sukhwinder Singh Sangha]]
[[User:MilHistBot|MilHistBot]] ([[User talk:MilHistBot|talk]]) 00:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

:Something seems wrong here. I will re-check the logs. [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 05:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 06:23, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

== AutoCheck report for October ==

The following articles were rated as B class by automatic assessment:
* <s>[[Barbette ship]]</s> B-class. [[User:Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Iazyges</span>]] [[User talk:Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Consermonor</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iazyges|<span style="color:#838996">Opus meum</span>]] 22:43, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
* [[Battle of Addi Qarro]]
* [[Battle of Chunj]]
* [[Battle of Hrvatska Kostajnica]]
* [[Battle of LaFayette]]
* [[Battle of Redon]]
* [[Battle of Wad Madani]]
* [[Battle on the Oreške fields]]
* [[Bill Young (CIA officer)]]
* [[Fengshan (general)]]
* [[Frederick William Holmes]]
* [[Henry Firth]]
* [[HMCS Tuna]]
* [[Howard C. Davidson]]
* [[Hubal pacifications]]
* [[John Gower (British naval officer)]]
* [[Kharqamar incident]]
* [[Light Weight Air Warning Radar]]
* [[Luo Shiwen]]
* [[N. C. Trowbridge]]
* [[Niederkaina massacre]]
* <s>[[October 2024 Friday Prayer in Tehran]]</s> Removed project banner as not within the scope of the project. Any coordinator who wishes to check this also, please do so. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 21:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
* [[Operation Kipling]]
* [[PAF Base Sakesar]]
* [[Pierce B. Anderson]]
* [[Ronald Hamlyn]]
* [[Sailors and Soldiers (Gifts for Land Settlement) Act 1916]]
* [[Siege of North Gaza]]
* [[Siege of Parenda (1634)]]
* [[SS Dixie Arrow]]
* [[Stefan Kubiak]]
* [[Sukhwinder Singh Sangha]]
* [[Teddy Gueritz]]
* [[Trotsky's Military Writings]]
* [[USAT Arcata]]
* [[Vin americanii!]]
* <s>[[Vivian Stranders]]</s> B class. [[User:Donner60|Donner60]] ([[User talk:Donner60|talk]]) 21:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
[[User:MilHistBot|MilHistBot]] ([[User talk:MilHistBot|talk]]) 06:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

:That's better {{smiley}} [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 06:30, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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