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How do I get a German passport, my mother is German and father is English. I have lived in England all my life but would like to apply for a German passport. My mother passed away 6 years ago, am I still entiteled to a German passport. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.153.193 (talk) 21:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

i live australia and have resident visa in my old passport what happen with my visa when i get the biometric one they say it gets cancel everything when u get the biometric than what i do stay in albania? and keep the biometric for when i go to the toilet.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Zhak albania (talk • contribs) 09:17, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

From the article:

As of January 2010 newly issued passports contain fingerprints.

I was issued an Italian passport by the Vancouver consulate in February of 2010 and was not required to provide my fingerprints. This needs citation/clarification. Emelpy (talk) 22:54, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

From the article: "Unless Turkish Government starts issuing machine readable passports by 1 April 2010 according to the ICAO mandate, Turkish citizens are going to be barred from air-travel." It seems the author of this line hasn't even read the reference document he/she has included. The information paper by ICAO clearly states that paper only passports will be accepted for air travel until April 2015. I won't bother correcting any more since my contributions are reverted blatantly. 193.140.92.233 (talk) 12:48, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

- Annex 9 to the Convention on International Civil Aviation Article d.3.10: “Contracting States shall begin issuing only Machine Readable Passports in accordance with the specifications of Doc 9303, Part 1, no later than 1 April 2010.” http://www.parlament.hu/irom/02918/fugg/en/an09_cons.pdf

- According to ICAO provisions, anyone not carrying a machine-readable passport after mid-April 2010 will be punished. ICAO has also authorized airport officials to deport passengers to their home countries if they are found flying without digital passports. ICAO has already circulated information about the mandatory provision on machine-readable passports to its 190 member countries.

- News: A new biometric passport has been launched in Liberia that will replace the old. The old one will continue to be valid until April 30, 2010.

--Deksar (talk) 13:42, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Can you show the sources for the remaining two quotes, from ICAO papers? 193.140.92.233 (talk) 17:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm quite sure that the picture labeled as "Biometric passport icon" is wrong. That symbol is for the ePassport, which is not the same concept as being biometric.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/eppt/eppt_2788.html#Eight

Thanks.

The main purpose of the electronic passport was to add cryptographically signed biometric data (initially often only a portrait optimized for facial recognition systems). So the two concepts are quite closely related. Markus Kuhn (talk) 10:19, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Bio-metric refers to taking fingerprints, image recognition, and retinal scans. "E" as in "ePassport" is short for "electronic".

"Bio-metric passport" and "e-passport" are not the same thing.

Bio-metrics can be in the form of a fingerprint and photo on a non-electronic passport.

Likewise, and electronic passport can contain no bio-metric data. Unggoydiyos (talk) 18:36, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Im husband of EU citizens,my nationality is indian i m not member of EUcitizens , so can i abel to get new biometric passport??

How many EU citizens are you husband to? NinjaKid 14:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes you are able to receive a biometric passport. theyve been issued to ALL uk passport holders —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.17.122.196 (talk) 22:23, 5 March 2007 (UTC).

Added a section for Singapore biometric passports. --Brandon 09:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

here is more information on the problems faced by epassport on the UK and europe [1]

I was very surprised to read the article on biometrics passports. It is clearly subjectively positive favoring the claim that ICAO passports are anywhere nearly secure enough to be deployed on the scale presently forced through by a few governments.

At the Id World in Milan we had a session on Electronic passports where I was invited to talk and the head of the ICAO working group on standardization was heading the panel. http://www.priway.com/docs/idworld_passport_engberg20061129.pdf

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.237.34.236 (talk) 16:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

I think that the reason the US is not using iris recognition or fingerprints in its new biometric passport has less to do with keeping down the cost, and more to do with the general aversion in the US to "Big Brother". Many people in the US would revolt, if they were told that in order to get a passport they needed to be fingerprinted or have some other biometric recording made. Sure, cost is a factor, but it's not the main factor. Steggall 14:18 19 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Well, some states (I know California for sure) require fingerprints when obtaining a driver's licence. There doesn't seem to be much of a revolt against that. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 13:38, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

"...though they still expect that nearly all new or renewed passports issued by the department to American citizens will be biometric by the end of 2006, other sources say it won't happen until mid-2007." This should be updated, as it is now mid-2007. I just received my first U.S. passport yesterday, issued by the State Department, and it has the biometric feature. So it seems likely that the conversion has happened, but at the moment I don't have the time to research exactly when it happened. --LarryGilbert 22:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

The term 'European passport' is used in this article, but without defining 'European' in this context. Does it mean the European Union (25 countries)? Or the European Economic Area (another 3 countries: including Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein)? Or does it include other European Countries such as Ukraine, Russia, Moldova, Bosnia? Or all 56 members of the OCSE (I would doubt it)? Some clarification would be helpful. Simhedges 23:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I think it's referring to the EU - the leaflet that came with my British biometric passport says "In line with new European Union standards, we are also considering including fingerprints in biometric passports in the future." --Jonnymoblin 20:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone know if the Identity and Passport Service has stopped issuing the old non-biometric passports? I know that my younger sister received a child biometric passport, so they must be well on their way with implementing it. Also, is the bit about applying from the British Embassy needed? --Jonnymoblin 20:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

There's a whole lot needed in this article... rootology (T) 23:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I run fraud lessons for a finance company in how to detect false forms of ID. We already discuss the security measures in the old red european machine readable passports, but there isn't enough data around to properly train people on the new UK biometric passports. Does anyone have any pictures of the visa pages, UV reactions, watermarks, latent images, destriperfs or any of the other features? If so, can you upload them? (Please be careful to block out any personal information before you do!) NinjaKid 14:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The new biometric passports appear to have something in common: the chip page is rigid. I am avoiding renewing my passport like the plague - for years I've placed my passport in my back jeans pocket, and the passport bends to the contours of my rear as you'd expect from a paper document.

Certain countries, like Australia, take delight in punishing their citizens for the slightest infractions. I can just see that snapped chip pages will be a great source of revenue for the Australian Government.

What prevents governments from being pragmatic and having a flexible chip page?

I've noted French passports have a chip but they are entirely flexible just like the old Australian / American / UK passports. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.58.234.53 (talk) 12:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

The country of Macedonia has recently distributed biometric passports amongst its citizens.

Hi, I have just added a paragraph on Moldavian biometric passport.--Passportistca (talk) 15:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC)Passportistca

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On 16 June 2010, Colombia announced they would issue biometrics beginning 15 July 2010 in Bogota only, and 05 August 2010 elsewhere in the country and in consulates worldwide, this was due to consistent complaints from persons seeking visas who had been turned down due to not having biometric passports, this technically goes into effect worldwide for Colombians tomorrow, but it has not yet been changed in the system. The current non-biometric ones are still valid until 24 November 2015. This information is available at any Embassy or Consulate of Colombia website as well as the Colombian Department of State's website, and in Spain on the wikipedia article about Colombian passports 99.72.139.92 (talk) 23:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

I am afraid there are copyright issues with the gallery and have started a discussion at WP:Media copyright questions#passport images in galleries and passport images with the uploader as "owner". Feel free to comment! L.tak (talk) 16:02, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

The article says Egyptian passports have the chip in the back cover. I have in front of me an Egyptian passport (the new style of passport) issued June 2011 and there is no chip. It does have a barcode under the photo though that probably contains some info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.232.180.35 (talk) 17:53, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

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Government has made it official today (16 June 2012). All new Argentine passports will be biometric from now on. Source: http://www.lmneuquen.com.ar/noticias/2012/6/16/presentaron-el-nuevo-pasaporte_151329

Someone should include it, and add the country to the map.--190.48.81.153 (talk) 03:25, 16 June 2012 (UTC)  Done

The opposition section should be changed:

Privacy proponents in many countries question and protest the lack of information about exactly what the passports' chip will contain, and whether they impact civil liberties. The main problem they point out is that data on the passports can be transferred with wireless RFID technology, which can become a major vulnerability. Although this could allow ID-check computers to obtain a person's information without a physical connection, especially by governmental employees and politically aligned people, it may also allow anyone with the necessary equipment to perform the same task. If the personal information and passport numbers on the chip are not encrypted, the information might wind up in the wrong hands. This is reminiscent of Napoleonic registration of subjects and possibly tracking of individuals.

Everyone in the government is interrelated and they are using third parties for fake political campaigns and acting. It is now even more evident with hollywood celebrities entering races and giving political advise and political people appointed to private sector companies. Even the news is manipulated by these people. Kingdoms and monarchies exists even nowadays. There is no true democracy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.49.175.65 (talk) 04:12, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

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Update the map, Chile has Biometric passport since 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignn (talk • contribs) 04:06, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

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India doesn't have biometric passport ... plz fix the Image

Agreed. Here's a source confirming that India does not currently issue biometric passports as of April 2019 https://www.cntraveller.in/story/indians-will-soon-get-e-passport-exactly/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eldrichr (talk • contribs) 17:55, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

The CNN article dates to Jan 2019. Do you have an Indian passport issued after that date that is still not biometric? (Conversely does anyone have one issued last year that *is* biometric?) MortimerGraves (talk) 23:13, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

The Government of India issues three different types of passports – Diplomatic passports; Official passports; and regular or ordinary passports. At present only Diplomatic passport holders of India get e-passports. The rest of the population does not. The Indian government hopes to start issuing e-passports for ordinary Indian citizens in the future. --Liberty Pedia (talk) 11:14, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

The point above is correct - India does not issue biometric passports to ordinary citizens. There are a few exceptions for trials but the map is inaccurate.

Here is an article that refers to how plans exist for a future implementation of biometric ordinary passports -

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/indians-to-get-chip-enabled-e-passport-all-you-need-to-know/articleshow/76624604.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eldrichr (talk • contribs) 14:04, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

A plan does not mean that something is available right now. As of writing, no one applying for a regular Indian passport can obtain a biometric passport. The map was and remains inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eldrichr (talk • contribs) 15:07, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Saudi Arabia began issuing biometric passports a couple of weeks ago, so I was wondering if the map on this page could reflect that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.116.229 (talk) 04:30, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

May someone please update the map to show Bahrain as being a biometric-passport issuer? Thanks.Nay1989 (talk) Nay1989 (talk) 06:59, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Please have this reflect on the biometric passport map. Nay1989 (talk) 04:31, 26 June 2023 (UTC)