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:::These guys, along with Dacy69, gang up on me, as well as other users, in order to push their point of view.[[User:Hajji Piruz|Hajji Piruz]] 15:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC) |
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{{unblock|This is now the second time I have been blocked because of false and misleading reports. A)I did not break my parole in any way, B) Atabek, Grandmaster, Dacy69 are trading reverts in order to bait users, especially me, and to push the version they want C) I was only attempting to present the facts as they are. |
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This is really ridiculous. Furthermore, see this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Grandmaster#Parole] Grandmaster gets a warning for breaking his parole?! Grandmaster and Atabek bait people so that they can post more evidence: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan_2/Workshop&diff=prev&oldid=148654209] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan_2/Evidence&diff=prev&oldid=148673914] Atabek does this all the time. Infact, most of the evidence he has ever posted is because he baits people, then posts frivolous evidence with false descriptions. |
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Atabek has made countless false reports and has canvassed several admins for weeks now and now he finally got what he wanted. Its really ridiculous that a user is allowed to do this habitually with no one attempting to tell him to stop. This is a form of harrassment. |
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It seems as though the only way one can get waht they want on Wikipedia is to outnumber others. These three guys have been ganging up on me for a long time, as well as on other users. |
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If I can get blocked for not breaking parole, then how Grandmaster, Atabek, and Dacy69 get away with what they do? Grandmaster even got a warning even though he had broken his parole and I get blocked when I didnt break my parole? Please someone review what has happened and set things straight.}} |
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Re:SafavidsHello. First, the major change in the introduction was brought by the IP address 84.58.200.238 and not by me. I even edited his/her changes and removed the part of its sentence which related Safavids to the Herat of Afghanistan. The edits which were made by that IP, was not a vandalism but in fact it seemed appropriate for me. Wasn't Persian the primary language of Safavids, beside the Azeri language? And weren't they traced back to Tat origin? However, I looked at the history and seemed that in some places User:Ali doostzadeh has reverted sourced information, and the unexplained removal of sources by User:Grandmaster in his last edit. Thanks -Ariana 07:14, 5 June 2007 (UTC) ThanksHello and thanks for the Barnstar, it was a nice surprise! Shervink 08:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC) Vandalizing my user page"Azerbaijani"/Hajji Piruz. I am warning you to stop vandalizing my user page, as you did here [1]. My next report will go to the relevant Wikipedia admistrative board. I would suggest that instead of vandalizing my page, you pay a little attention to achieving consensus and assuming a good faith. Hopefully changing username from Azerbaijani to Hajji Piruz, aside from attempt to evade ArbCom injunction, should also imply some change in editing attitude towards constructivism as well. Atabek 18:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
AniranI think that your problem was related to your cache or something. Try clearing some cache as that has worked for me in the past. Fullstop came right after and incorporated Iranica information anyway, so the sourcing issue is resolved. The Behnam 16:22, 6 June 2007 (UTC) Re: AtabekAgain, just like I told you, he has gone to yet another admin in the very same day: [2]. Tariq, the reason I tell you this is because you are now familiar with this user, is there any suggestion you can give me on how to handle this situation or can you discuss this issue with the other admins? If you need more information, just ask.Hajji Piruz 22:52, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Tariq, I see that you have read Atabeks latest comment, and its a very absurd comment as he is accusing me of "attacking, blackmailing, and harassing me, I have no interest in communicating with you outside content discussions" when I have done no such thing and he has no proof! How am I blackmailing you Atabek, how am I harassing you Atabek, how am I attacking you Atabek? Show us the proof, the evidence, the diff's, something...what you are doing now is personally attacking me, because these false accusations are personal attacks if you cant back them up with evidence. Its you that is doing this to me. You have even tried canvassing to get me in trouble. Tariq, I'd also appreciate it if you would also make some comments on the mediation page when it comes to that so that the mediator knows other users have seen how Atabek makes false accusations and personal attacks. User:Bushytails has also commented on Atabek's disruptive editing here: [3] Tariq, his false accusations are personal attacks right? Cant you do anything based on what you've seen here? I will definetly go to mediation though.Hajji Piruz 01:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Just thought you should know, Atabek canvassing again: [4]Hajji Piruz 14:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
This is why CEM wont work: Actually, you're no authority (neither admin nor mediator) to make or not make something sure about users treating each other. But anyways, good luck with ambitions, I shall simply ignore you, since you just don't understand much. [6] In CEM, we're supposed to make our own punishments and come to a conclusion on our own...How can we do that when one user simply makes accusations (wihtout posting the evidence to prove them) and personal attacks? I have asked Thatcher131 if we could possibly re-open the arbcom, if he says no, then I will do a RFC (but which diff's should I show proving that you and I have commented, should I just post the link to this section?).Hajji Piruz 14:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Category:Treaties of IranHi, as you already noticed I went ahead and made a new Category:Treaties of Iran --only because I saw the already existing Category:Treaties of Persia. I think there should be further discussion until the two are merged. Take care. --Bobak 16:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC) RFCHello, I have opened the RFC. Cold you please sign your name, as per the two user requirement: [7]. I'm not done yet, I still have to post a lot of evidence showing this users disruptive behavior and refute his allegations against me.Hajji Piruz 19:55, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I'm afraid Atabek is going to get his pals (other users from the Republic of Azerbaijan) to flood the RFC with comments supporting Atabek. So far, Elsanaturk, who hasnt been active since June 5 all of a sudden appears and his third edit is on the RFC...Please see this: [9] Also, see Elsanaturks comment on the Atabeks summary. Elsanaturk blindly apporves of Atabek and points the finger at me despite the fact that I am the only one who posted evidence. This kind of blind support will only make things worse. This dispute will not be solved if non-neutral users are the ones that comment and attempt to flood the article. Is there anyway we can only have neutral third party users discuss the RFC along with Atabek and I?Hajji Piruz 01:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Actually, it's my right to ask others to comment on RfC against myself, I did so openly on a talk page. I am not the one who filed RfC, you're. And please, stop taking everything along national lines, you clearly did it just now [12]. Assume good faith finally, and hopefully, we can resolve our differences in a civilized manner without wasting community's resources. Atabek 04:00, 8 June 2007 (UTC) Re:Because they were taking up way too much space. BTW, I'm curious, are you an ethnic Azerbaijani or a Persian? -- Aivazovsky 14:59, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Your proposalHajji Piruz, I think you have a bit of a tall order. But I will address your points one by one:
"6. You will never misuse and abuse Wikipedia's rules and policies, distorting them to fit your POV again."
Overall, as I told you, you need to calm down and assume good faith. Revert warring and aggressive behavior against users based on nationality, summing up everyone with words like "all from Republic of Azerbaijan", won't yield much benefit to you. Aside from proving the fact that you're battling along national lines, you're pretty much alienating a group of people against yourself, and such hatred is needless and unconstructive. Atabek 05:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC) Iran-Azerbaijan relationsNo, inaugurating a pipeline to Armenia exactly on the day of Novruz celebration is indicative of openly hostile approach of Iranian leadership towards Azerbaijan. This is quite relevant and worth mentioning in the article. Atabek 23:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC) OKNow well, thanks :) --Brand спойт 18:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC) Iran-BangladeshMy pleasure. It would be good to examine the differences in relations across different Bangladeshi administrations.--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 21:30, 11 June 2007 (UTC) Pending RfArbI do not mean to discourage you from going to ArbCom with Atabek; in fact, I believe it's the best option at this point. However, I would like to caution you, so that you are less shocked later, that you may be disappointed by the outcome. Through the statements I have seen from you, you appear to think you are entirely innocent in this scuffle with Atabek. Wrong. You are just as disruptive and culpable as Atabek, if not more. If you don't begin to realize that soon, your RfArb is unlikely to go well. If and when you do bring this matter to ArbCom, I will make sure to bring forward evidence of your disruptive behavior, as well as that of Atabek... just so you know. -- tariqabjotu 15:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Copyright violationsMay be deleted at any time. It was a clear copyright violation from Radio Free Europe. I encourage you to contact them and request that the image be released under a free licence. - Francis Tyers · 15:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Image copyright problem with Image:PanTurk_Grey_Wolves.JPGThanks for uploading Image:PanTurk_Grey_Wolves.JPG. The image has been identified as not specifying the copyright status of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the copyright status of the image on the image's description page, using an appropriate copyright tag, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided copyright information for them as well. For more information on using images, see the following pages: This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 07:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC) HiThe fact that it is sometimes wrong does not mean that it is an unreliable source. In fact the fact that it issued an apology makes it a reliable source. An unreliable source would not have issued an apology. AI is a leading human rights NGO that covers the world. It is biased towards human rights, which tends to annoy governments (for example here) who don't like human rights, but that is no excuse to exclude it, providing it is well attributed, which in this case it is. - Francis Tyers · 13:07, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I suppose you think that:
Please do not be selective and only "accept" sources when they fit your POV. - Francis Tyers · 13:22, 16 June 2007 (UTC) Reliable source do say reportedly. All the time. Just because you cannot confirm something does not mean you shouldn't report it. This is why they say reportedly instead of stating it as fact. They have a good reputation, which is why they are one of the largest human-rights NGOs in the world (if not the largest). Perhaps you can name another reliable source for human-rights, or perhaps you don't believe in human-rights, or non-governmental organisations making reports on these subjects. If not, then you are entitled to your opinion, but according to all Wikipedia policy, AI is a reliable source and their statements, when properly attributed should be included in articles about human-rights. - Francis Tyers · 13:28, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
You've already stated that AI admits and apologises for its mistakes. - Francis Tyers · 13:33, 16 June 2007 (UTC) Lets review:
Now, these aren't exactly wildly different, so there is no harm in reporting both. Just as for the Stop the War Coalition marches the numbers who turned out differed between the police, organisers, independent organisations. In some cases, the numbers differed into the hundreds of thousands. We report both sides of the story for NPOV. - Francis Tyers · 13:36, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
arbcomI opened Arbcom page. please make your comments. [13]--Dacy69 15:16, 18 June 2007 (UTC) Did you know?you have been turned in to the secret policeSee [[14]]. You have been accused of being a sockpuppet. The checkuser did not find you guilty. You are innocent! Please do not revenge. Vectorsap 00:04, 21 June 2007 (UTC) Your commentActually, if you notice out of all involved editors, it seems that you are the only one involved in intimidation, revert warring, wikistalking my every single edit, and, in fact, starting the whole campaign wasting community's time with RfC and ArbCom. As my exchanges show, I do discuss and communicate constructively with all involved editors on all sides. I hope ArbCom makes a note of this for future reference, even though I believe this whole conflict started by yourself (I wasn't the one filing RfC and ArbCom, you were) could be solved in a more constructive manner without community time wasting, if you only assumed good faith and showed full desire for mediation, which you never did. I am still open for discussions if you want constructive editing. Thanks. Atabek 14:33, 22 June 2007 (UTC) Iranian Issue: Hajji Piruz ??.Hi there! Thank You for Your response about the Passport history. How ever I would like to see a seperate article about it, The Iranian Passports and its history. That's exactly what I talked about. About Iranian national IQ: I think it should be a seprate section or article to put some light on the issue (???). Regards :=D ArbitrationYou recently added Zondi as a party to the arbitration case that is about to be opened. From the page history, it appears that this editor was added by another user who then decided that it was not necessary that this editor be a party. I am not able to tell whether you believe that this editor should be a party or whether you were just reverting what you thought was an unauthorized removal. Could you please advise whether you believe this editor is a necessary party to the case and if so why. Thank you. Newyorkbrad 02:05, 25 June 2007 (UTC) Hello, An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2/Workshop. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 16:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC) Hello. Well, the Republic of Azerbaijan did not exist then, but the term Azerbaijani khanates is commonly used by scholars to denote these polities, isn’t it? Imho, "Eastern Southern Caucasus" sounds even more artificial as the term belongs to the relatively recently adopted geopolitical nomenclature. Thanks, KoberTalk 15:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC) Re: Checkuser on AdilBaguirovThanks for changing that. Also, some people are sticklers that when someone puts a code B down, they want an arbcom link. Kwsn(Ni!) 15:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
History of Shia in IranSalam. I saw your edit[15] and These are some good sources for this issue: Converting Persia, Religion and power in Safavid Empire I hope that you be able to read persian. issue:[16], [17], [18]--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 04:36, 9 July 2007 (UTC) NiceI'm glad that you now see [19] what I saw [20][21]. The Behnam 15:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
ShaddadidsSaw your comment on the Shaddadid talk page. I will soon start expanding it and fixing it up. Wondering if you would like to co-operate.User:Hetoum I 22:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC) Sounds good. What is first thing we should start working on. We can refer to minorsky's work and start creating dynasty template, etc... What would you suggest is the best way to go?Hetoum I 00:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
User:Hetoum_I/Sandbox2 - I have started it. Is it ok so far?, please feel free to add. I also know they ruled in Ani, Dvin, and Ganja - we need to figure out how t break them down.Hetoum I 20:43, 15 July 2007 (UTC) 3RRYou currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Mirrori1 19:29, 15 July 2007 (UTC) Your edit to 3RRI'm not sure what this edit was about, particularly because you did not use an edit summary, but I have reverted it. Please do not vandalize the administrators' noticeboards. Thank you. Kafziel Talk 14:48, 18 July 2007 (UTC) Caucasian origin of the AzerbaijanisHi Hajji Piruz. You are off to such a great start on the article Caucasian origin of the Azerbaijanis that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. The Main Page gets about 4,000,000 hits per day and appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Also, don't forget to keep checking back at Did you know suggestions for comments regarding your nomination. Again, great job on the article. -- Jreferee (Talk) 21:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC) And here we are Well done. Happy editing, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:31, 23 July 2007 (UTC)On Kasravi, et al.Dear Haji Piruz, you may wish to watch the following video: [22]. --BF 14:23, 21 July 2007 (UTC) templateThanks for the message. I think the template should stay, because the Safavids are also important for regions outside the boundaries of modern Iran, for example Afghanistan, Iraq, or Azerbaijan. I believe that you misinterprete the template. It is not ment for dynasties that were created outside of modern day Iran, but it is ment as a template for all regions that are historically a part of Greater Iran. The Achaemenids were also founded within the boundaries of modern Iran, but they are important for many other regions. The Qajars, however, do not have a major role in the histories of other nations surrounding Iran. -DerDoc 19:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC) My blockI did not violate my parole in any way shape or form. Atabek finally, after countless false reports has managed to get me blocked. My first block for "violation" of a revert parole was ridiculous, again obtained after canvassing and false reports, and now this?! This is ridiculous. In the mean time, Grandmaster, Atabek, and Dacy69 trade reverts.Hajji Piruz 00:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC) List of Azerbaijani films: 1898-1919
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