Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Highways/Hong Kong/Archive 1: Difference between revisions

Template:WikiProject Hong Kong Roads

Hi all, I've created three new templates: {{traffic volume top}}, {{traffic volume row}}, and {{traffic volume bottom}}, that can be used for creating tables of traffic volume data, as seen in the new A-Class article Kwinana Freeway and relatively new GA Tonkin Highway (which were previously hardcoded). I've written the documentation and WP:TemplateData. These have been coded using parser functions, but I imagine the logic can be executed using a WP:Lua module (I haven't yet learned to code in Lua). - Evad37 (talk) 13:35, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-posted to WikiProject Highways and other road wikiprojects. Please reply at WT:HWY#New templates

There is a discussion at the above page related to what additional sections (beyond the standard route description, history, junction list) can or must be included on a road article. --Rschen7754 05:11, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Starting soon.—CycloneIsaac–E-Mail 02:23, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the list; users may object here. Most of these articles fail WP:N.

To be continued.—CycloneIsaac–E-Mail 21:51, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Heimstern: I'm curious as to your thoughts on this - I don't have enough local knowledge to form an opinion. --Rschen7754 22:46, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I'm not really sure. How is notability generally determined for roads? Heimstern Läufer (talk) 00:41, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Largely through WP:GNG, and standards similar to WP:USRD/NT (though it tends to vary depending on the country). The reason that this came up is because it seems that there's a disproportionate number of road articles for Hong Kong, compared to other countries (relative to the size of the country/region). But there are plenty of articles on the Chinese Wikipedia for many of the above routes, so I'm not sure what to make of it. --Rschen7754 00:44, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First off, comparing Hong Kong to "other countries" (excluding, say, Singapore) is going to inevitably produce unusual results because Hong Kong is unusually dense, being all one city. So you'll get a larger concentration of urban roads and fewer long arteries. So I don't think comparisons are likely to work well. As for the list, the only one that immediately sets off a red flag is Prince Edward Road, as that's a significant road and seems likely to me to have the coverage needed to establish notability if we search for it. I need to get off the computer, so I'll come back with more later. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 01:06, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

After a second thought, I took off Prince Edward Road.—CycloneIsaac–E-Mail 01:18, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There may be more of these that could be sourced, though I'm not sure of that. Some probably don't need to be on Wikipedia. Would it be possible to go through this nominations relatively slowly, just to make sure there's adequate time for saves if appropriate? Heimstern Läufer (talk) 12:57, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'll start notifying WP:HK and WP:HWY.—CycloneIsaac–E-Mail 21:13, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging HKRD members: User:Kiewii, and User:Marcnut1996 - in case neither following this page. Neither have posted here previously. -- Nbound (talk) 23:54, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Repinging.(Conversation is still going on)—CycloneIsaac–E-Mail 00:03, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Id suggest a small set (half a dozen?) of PRODs at this point, I think -- Nbound (talk) 03:43, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion on WT:HWY regarding a proposal for a shields request page on WP:HWY - Evad37 (talk) 03:19, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]