User talk:Exxess
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Thanks. Just give some thought to the matter and write it up as you wish - I have nothing else to add beyond what I already did. Good luck. Mercy11 (talk) 03:12, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your message. You clearly put a lot of time and research into the changes you made to the article, and I know from experience how frustrating it is when another editor swoops in and reverts all your work like that.
Please don't be discouraged. Take a look at WP:BRD, an essay that describes a common editing cycle: you were bold in making changes, another editor reverted your changes, so now it's time to discuss your proposed changes on the article's Talk page.
As far as the substance of your edits, I'm afraid I don't know enough about the 14th Amendment to judge whether there was OR. One of the drawbacks of using primary sources (such as statutes and court decisions) instead of secondary sources (such as journal articles or other analyses of the law) is that primary sources may be open to interpretation, which invites charges of OR. See WP:PSTS for more information about using primary and secondary sources in Wikipedia.
Good luck. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hi. Unfortunately, Wikipedia's WP:NOR policy—WP:PSTS in particular—supports the other editors in this dispute. Court decisions are considered primary sources, not secondary sources, and you really need to have some secondary sources that discuss both the 14th Amendment and the court decision in question. Good luck. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 00:05, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
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- Hello! I saw Your input in topic and I wonder if You have time to help in improving the article? Also, You added "In the year 1244, Bolesław, Duke of Masovia, identified members of the knights' clan as members of a genealogia:....". Is there any chance to get the reference so I can make citation?. Than You in advance! camdan (talk) 21:56, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thank You! I included the reference. :) camdan (talk) 13:21, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
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- Sorry, Sam Sailor. Will leave it all out in the open from now on... - Exxess (talk) 23:06, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
re: Anti-Polish Khmelnytsky Uprising
Those are roughly correct, particularly when used together; but I still think this (adjectives for KU) is undue level of detail for the lead of the szlachta article. Seriously, no work defining szlachta, or even its history, would even mention KU. I will review the discussion/article shortly, but my gut feeling is this the best solution will be to remove some off topic stuff from the article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:53, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- Found a bit time to look into it. Simple: remove KU from the lead. Problem solved. We can discuss its anti-Polish dimension (which I think is roughly correct) in the KU article if you want, but it has nothing to do with the definition of szlachta. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:46, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Yes, there's a lot of unreferenced stuff there. This article need a major rewrite/referencing, no doubt there. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:12, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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. Template:Z8 Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Cullen328, I think the block is knee-jerk. Harassment, or being forthright - judgement call, considering the context. The intent is to challenge certain editors' edits. Just being forthright. - Exxess (talk) 06:30, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- You are incorrect. I am capable of reading diffs, and your comments were beyond the pale. "Forthright" is speaking frankly about content. You went way beyond that to personally attack specific editors, not their edits and not the content. That behavior is not allowed on this collaborative website. If you agree to abandon that type of misconduct, you can continue to edit Wikipedia. If you persist with personal attacks, then I am sorry, but Wikipedia is not the website for you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Cullen328, I think the block is knee-jerk. Harassment, or being forthright - judgement call, considering the context. The intent is to challenge certain editors' edits. Just being forthright. - Exxess (talk) 06:30, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Cullen328. Here is how user Lembit Staan began a talk discussion here - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poland#Szlachta - "No it is not. This user [Exxess] keeps pumping
bullshithis own interpretations into the article:"
- Hi Cullen328. Here is how user Lembit Staan began a talk discussion here - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poland#Szlachta - "No it is not. This user [Exxess] keeps pumping
- That's an invite for all editors to attack the so-called "bullshit" interpretations in the article.
- Personally, I think my refutation of what Lembit Staan characterizes as "bullshit" is well referenced with secondary sources. I think I tried to engage in a factual, detailed, precise discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poland#Szlachta, while I am being accused of "owning the article," "original research," WP:SYNTH. It is ridiculous. I am sticking to the secondary sources.
- I know the detailed history, and I have been accused of sock-puppetry, etc. It just goes on and on when peculiar editors are challenged. The "deletion meddling" Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus points out is disingenuous and painting that in a false light. That was an honest mistake, because a user I believe named Korwinsky was responding in a way that made it very difficult to follow a discussion chronologically, with statements about me, like, "Damn you suck at history." If my responses constitute a "personal attack", then we're letting so-called "civility" trump the facts.
- I try to ignore the uncivil tactics, and the underhanded tactics, and focus on the facts, but when it comes to butchering an article, well, I wrote I wrote.
- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus is putting the situation in false light, in my opinion. 1% so-called "personal attacks", 99% useful contributions.
- So, thank you for your consideration and your comments, but I am definitely doing something right. - Exxess (talk) 07:13, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Let me be crystal clear: If you persist with this misconduct, you will be blocked indefinitely. Is that what you want? Or will you reconsider your own behavior? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Cullen328. I would consider it a badge of honor for you to block me for precisely three months. Please block me for three months. This statement is a sad joke - "This user [Exxess] keeps pumping
bullshithis own interpretations into the article". It seems I am required to go on a "hunger strike" of sorts, to protest the underhanded tactics of peculiar editors. Please do me the honor of blocking me for three months. Thank you. - Exxess (talk) 07:41, 5 May 2021 (UTC)- No. I am not in the business of handing out badges of honor. My job is to enforce policy and stop disruption. Your block is for one week, not three months. This discussion is about your misconduct, not about any ill advised comments by other editors. The question now is not the length of your block, but rather whether you will return to productive editing without harassing and personally attacking other editors. So consider that question for the next six plus days. The decision is yours in the end. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:49, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Cullen328. I would consider it a badge of honor for you to block me for precisely three months. Please block me for three months. This statement is a sad joke - "This user [Exxess] keeps pumping
- Hi Cullen328. I see no misconduct, only what was necessary and proper in defense of the facts. That being written, I accept the block. Do what you think is necessary and proper. - Exxess (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
For the record: My major problem with the article "Szlachta" was not the belligerent editor, but the apparent lack of interest of the Polish community to the subject. I admit I may be in error, and asked them for a third opinion several times, but got none, and the article continues to be dominated by a WP:OWNer. Heck, I even did not complain then they violated the 3RR reverting my "knee-jerk" edits. I understand that only a community can handle a WP:OWNer. But the community seems to be deterred by the repetitive walls of text generated by this editor. Forcing this editor to be more polite will not solve the problems with the article text they generated. When I come back there in 2 months, I feel I will have to go in a hard way of the procedure of formal dispute resolution for each and every dubious statement this user introduced. Lembit Staan (talk) 22:08, 5 May 2021 (UTC)