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Format of questions
Hi, per previous discussions
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jeopardy!/Archive_3#Format_of_questions_and_answers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jeopardy!/Archive_2#What_is_Jeopardy.3F
the format of questions and answers in this game is confusing to people unfamiliar with it, and is not adequately explained in the article. I made this edit, but it was immediately reverted even though "probably true". Please can we try to agree some suitable wording to explain this. 86.160.221.234 (talk) 21:27, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
PS, see the linked piece at http://theangrytiki.com/2009/06/jeopardy-is-really-really-stupid.html for a list of examples of exactly what the problem is, and ample evidence that the stock explanation that the contestants supply a question to fit a given answer just does not hold water. 86.160.221.234 (talk) 21:41, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
- There's already a section discussing what you're trying to accomplish: Jeopardy!#Phrasing and judging. "Griffin had originally intended for the phrasing to be grammatically correct (e.g., not accepting any phrasing other than 'Who is…' for a person), but after finding that grammatical correction slowed the game down, he decided that the show should instead accept any correct response that was in question form."
- The same response is provided in your second link to archived discussions. Sottolacqua (talk) 22:15, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
- Also, your link to theangrytiki does not work. Sottolacqua (talk) 22:30, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
- Oh ... the link works fine for me (but I do not see the "same response" provided in the archived discussions. What are you referring to?) The section you refer to in the article does not really shed any light on the issue, since "Who is George Washington?" / "The Father of Our Country; he didn't really chop down a cherry tree" is a feasible question/answer pair (just about). I'm talking about the case when the question/answer pairs are apparently nonsensical. Below are three examples, copied from that link that you can't see. I just cannot understand the thinking or reasoning behind it, and this is what I feel the article should try to explain.
- Also, your link to theangrytiki does not work. Sottolacqua (talk) 22:30, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
- Q. Who is Alice In Wonderland?
- A. When the Mad Hatter says, "No room!", you retort "There's plenty of room!" as you're playing this little girl
- Q. What is 'Frasier'?
- A. David Hyde Pierce on this sitcom: "Her lips were saying 'no', but her eyes were saying 'read my lips'
- Q. What is 'Seinfeld'?
- A. Kramer, on this show, "I'm taping Canadian Parliament, you know, on C-SPAN."
From Jeopardy!#Phrasing and judging: "[Griffin] decided that the show should instead accept any correct response that was in question form."
The "answers" are not regularly referred to "answers" on the show; Trebek refers to them as "clues." Because of this, and based upon the detail in the phrasing and judging section, you can determine which response in question form would be ruled correct.
- A. When the Mad Hatter says, "No room!", you retort "There's plenty of room!" as you're playing this little girl
- Q. Who is Alice In Wonderland?
- A. David Hyde Pierce on this sitcom: "Her lips were saying 'no', but her eyes were saying 'read my lips'
- Q. What is Frasier?
- A. Kramer, on this show, "I'm taping Canadian Parliament, you know, on C-SPAN."
- Q. What is Seinfeld?
This edit that you made is essentially a duplication of what is already in Jeopardy!#Phrasing and judging; you just happened to place it in another section. Sottolacqua (talk) 00:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Who holds the record?
The "Returning Champions" section says Ken Jennings "holds the all-time records for total game show earnings." Doesn't that honor belong to Brad Rutter? Brauden (talk) 09:41, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
- Rutter currently holds the all-time winnings record for only Jeopardy!, while Jennings holds the all-time record for American game shows in general. - Seth Allen (discussion/contributions), Friday, November 16, 2012, 01:30 UTC.
Considering promotion to GA status
I have been considering nominating this article for promotion to "Good article" status for the following reasons:
- It is an article about a very notable and well-known American game show, which is likely one of the most notable programs of its genre.
- The article balances acceptable primary and secondary sources, citing over 100 different resources which include books, newspaper and magazine articles, accepted Internet resources, press releases, and even the episodes themselves, used where applicable. It also avoids citing unreliable sources such as blogs, fan-sites, copyright-violating YouTube videos, other Wikipedia articles, tabloid publications, and IMDb and TV.com.
- I feel that the article's contents lack any shred of bias, with fan-cruft and original research kept to a bare minimum.
- The article respects copyright laws as there are no direct quotations from copyright-protected materials, except where such is necessary in the context of the article. Also, non-free imagery is avoided except for one image showing the evolution of the syndicated version's set over the years, and even that one image has a detailed fair use rationale, per policy.
- The article is broad in its coverage of the show. It covers all key information about the show except for its complete broadcast history, audition process, and international versions, all of which have been spun off into their own appropriately-named child articles.
- The article respects the rules of the English language and the guidelines set forth in the Manual of Style, using correct spelling and grammar. It is very cohesive and comprehensive, and all material present in the article is properly organized.
I want to consider whether other editors feel the same way about this article in its current state as I do now before I decide to nominate it for GA status. --Seth Allen (discussion/contributions), Thursday, April 11, 2013, 16:55 UTC.
- I agree. The article is in much better shape now, its sources are reliable, and I think it's ready to be nominated for GA status --Bentvfan54321 (talk) 10:57, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Image of sets
Do we really need to show both the 2002 set and its 2006 revision in the image of sets? After all, the 2006 set was just a minor revision to the 2002 set adapted for HD. I propose we remove the 2006 revision from the image and add in the 1985-1991 set. ANDROS1337TALK 00:54, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 04:12, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- I will review this article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:12, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- I am quickfailing this article. Many problems with GA1 unresolved. There are more deadlinks now than were listed at GA1 according to the external links tool to the right.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:28, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- There are numerous entire paragraphs without any citations.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:28, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Please review WP:WIAGA before resubmitting.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:28, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Review comments
I have taken care of all the dead links in this article. For the majority I used Internet Archive's "Wayback Machine", but for two links for which I could not retrieve archived versions, I simply eliminated their dead links, but retained the citations themselves. For those paragraphs that lacked citations when the article was quickfailed, I have added citations to such paragraphs.
I saw that one of the problems that led the article to be quickfailed was the article being too long. To do this, I condensed the "Merchandise" section to a basic summary (while simultaneously restoring the child article for merchandising, which I had unknowingly merged into the parent article months ago without allowing for discussion, on the grounds that it was not entirely comprised of original research - the Jeopardy! video games, for instance, are notable, as they had been discussed by a reliable source: IGN). I also removed unsourced cultural references from the "Portrayals in other media" section, and made various other edits and modifications. -- Seth Allen (discussion/contributions) 04:04, Monday, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
- In my opinion, the apparent illogicality of the format, in which the "correct" answers often fail to make any logical or grammatical sense as questions eliciting the response posed, which is the oddest and most confusing feature of this game, is still not adequately explained. 86.171.43.236 (talk) 20:43, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
- That would constitute POV and/or original research unless verifiable against a reliable source. -- Seth Allen (discussion/contributions) 03:32, Monday, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
- So would many things, no doubt. 86.146.104.35 (talk) 01:25, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
- That would constitute POV and/or original research unless verifiable against a reliable source. -- Seth Allen (discussion/contributions) 03:32, Monday, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
New Set
Could someone upload a picture of the new 2013 30th anniversary set. Thanks. 174.23.193.1 (talk) 23:31, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia editor on Jeopardy?
I am watching Jeopardy and there's a contestant named Mary who said she went to a Wikipedia convention... any idea who it is? Just curious. :-) ATren (talk) 00:11, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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