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Template:Cleanup-spam

Template:Cleanup-spam (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Cleanup-spam with Template:Advert.
Although some have argued that {{advert}} is designed to deal with content that is written with the "tone" of an advertisement, this template argues that it contains "promotional material and other spam", such as inappropriate external links.

However, if it is written like promotional material, it is promotional material. Aside from the slightly different wording, these two templates essentially have the same purpose. I suggest that these two templates be merged with the wording:

"This article is written like an advertisement. Please help improve the article by removing promotional content and inappropriate external links, and by adding encyclopedic content written from a neutral point of view."

This covers all the potential scenarios for these two templates together. If it is just links that are the problem, {{External links}} covers it. ViperSnake151 Talk 19:11, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 21:54, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. While the two templates say different things, they're close enough in functionality that we can easily write something that would cover both scenarios; your wording works, and it wouldn't be hard to replace it if someone objected. Redirect one template to the other, add the new text to the target template, and we're done. Nyttend (talk) 21:56, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom and Nyttend —PC-XT+ 00:02, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Evolution (professional wrestling)

Template:Evolution (professional wrestling) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Same as the Shield. Not enought entries, only 4 wrestlers. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:57, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete per precedent, though this does actually navigate a bit, and I nearly said weak keep —PC-XT+ 01:15, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Russia Squad 2003 UEFA Futsal Championship

Template:Spain Squad 1999 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Yugoslavia Squad 1999 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Poland Squad 2001 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Russia Squad 2003 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Spain Squad 2003 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Portugal Squad 2003 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Russia Squad 2005 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Czech Republic Squad 2005 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Portugal Squad 2005 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Ukraine Squad 2005 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Hungary Squad 2005 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Czech Republic Squad 2007 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Italy Squad 2007 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Portugal Squad 2007 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Romania Squad 2007 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Russia Squad 2007 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Serbia Squad 2007 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Ukraine Squad 2007 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Azerbaijan Squad 2010 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Belarus Squad 2010 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Belgium Squad 2010 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Czech Republic Squad 2010 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Hungary Squad 2010 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Italy Squad 2010 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Portugal Squad 2010 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Russia Squad 2010 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Serbia Squad 2010 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Ukraine Squad 2010 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

non-championship-winning squads. Frietjes (talk) 18:02, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Left Behind

Template:Left Behind (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Left Behind Characters (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Left Behind with Template:Left Behind Characters.
very few characters still have independent articles, so it makes sense to merge the links to the characters into the main template. Frietjes (talk) 17:46, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom —PC-XT+ 01:36, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:High School DxD

Template:High School DxD (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

With only three sub-lists this template isn't really necessary. The characters, light novels and episode lists can all be comfortably accessed from the main High School DxD article. KirtZJ (talk) 15:07, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as unnecessary —PC-XT+ 01:48, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox academic division

Template:Infobox academic division (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (77 6 transclusions)¹

Template:Infobox university (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) (19,369 transclusions)

Propose merging Template:Infobox academic division with Template:Infobox university.
A previous TfD to replace Academic Division after replacing instances with the more generic template closed as "no consensus", because some people preferred to insist on a formal merge proposal rather than discuss the merits of the template in question.

It is redundant to the generic template (which already serves for faculties, schools, colleges, and other types of parts of universities, which currently use the AD template).

The parameters unique to the AD template are |canton=, |prefecture=, |region= (the documentation of the University template says |province= is for "all other administrative subdivisions"), |alumni=, and |symbol= (the latter pair are not specific to academic divisions, and may apply to any University or sub-set of one).

Here is an example replacement. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:21, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

¹I have replaced the transclusions of the AD template which do not use the parameters listed above. Further investigation shows that |symbol= is unused. |alumni= is used in the remaining six transclusions, but its meaning is not clear (one is footnoted "The number of living alumni as of the year 2012"; others not, and most are uncited). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:52, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please use |type=sidebar with {{Tfm}} when nominating infoboxes in the future. 31.153.43.216 (talk) 17:01, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ban enforcement request

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{{Admin help}} The user Pigsonthewing is banned from discussing the removal of infoboxes. Merging the two as he proposes would result in one of them getting removed. Please enforce the ban, thanks. Link to the relevant ArbCom decision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes#Remedies 24.53.32.12 (talk) 12:09, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The topic banned user now called my request a comedy interlude. Please admonish him for his inappropriate behavior in addition to enforcing the ban with a 1-month block. 24.53.32.12 (talk) 15:11, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, I shouldn't have called it a comedy interlude, I should have just posted this:

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:20, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The topic banned user's behavior here's beyond the pale. Can someone finally mop up the mess please? Thanks. 24.53.32.12 (talk) 21:03, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration ban enforcement should be requested at WP:AE. Normally I'd just copy your request over there; however, a previous request for arbitration enforcement was made on similar grounds but rejected. Also, Andy's routinely engaged in this kind of request since the ban was imposed, and as far as I can tell, nobody's raised a stink about it in the past; it would be absurd to sanction him for a ban violation now if he's openly been doing the same thing for a year and a half. For these reasons, I don't believe that it would help to file a normal request for arbitration enforcement. Nyttend (talk) 21:37, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Futsal squad templates

Template:Brazil Squad 1992 FIFA Futsal World Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Brazil Squad 1996 FIFA Futsal World Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Italy Squad 2003 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template:Russia Squad 1999 UEFA Futsal Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Per WP:NENAN - fewer than five blue links excluding the parent article . Not a useful aid to navigation at the moment. Fenix down (talk) 11:33, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:08, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

weak keep, these are championship-winning squads. Frietjes (talk) 17:46, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Iran Squad 1996 FIFA Futsal World Championship

Template:Iran Squad 1996 FIFA Futsal World Championship (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Per WP:NENAN - fewer than five blue links excluding the parent article . Not a useful aid to navigation at the moment. Fenix down (talk) 11:22, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

delete, didn't win the championship. Frietjes (talk) 14:44, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
keep, have five blue links excluding the parent article--saeedparva 18:44, 30 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 02:13, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Milwaukie neighborhoods

Template:Milwaukie neighborhoods (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navbox listing neighborhoods of a small city with no hope of being notable enough for articles. The one neighborhood with any chance of notability, Lewelling, Milwaukie, Oregon was deleted via PROD today. I've rescued dozens of articles about small towns and neighborhoods, so am not a deltionist on these topics, but I have no hope for expansion of these. All can be written about in the primary topic, Milwaukie, Oregon, therefore no navbox is needed. Valfontis (talk) 00:50, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, the neighborhoods of this small suburban city are highly unlikely to be notable enough for any such articles to exist, at least for the next few decades. Even if something dramatic were to happen (like a shooting rampage massacre), the other neighborhoods would not become notable. —EncMstr (talk) 04:50, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per EncMstr. SJ Morg (talk) 16:25, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I was hesitant to vote this way, since National Register of Historic Places historic districts often embrace neighborhoods (they're always notable, since the National Register requires much more documentation than is required by WP:N), but National Register of Historic Places listings in Clackamas County, Oregon doesn't show any historic districts in Milwaukie. Nyttend (talk) 02:49, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 :{{sup|1}}I have replaced the transclusions of the AD template which do not use the parameters listed above. Further investigation shows that {{Para|symbol}} is unused. {{Para|alumni}} is used in the remaining six transclusions, but its meaning is not clear (one is footnoted "The number of living alumni as of the year 2012"; others not, and most are uncited). <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 14:52, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
+* Please use {{para|type|sidebar}} with {{tlx|Tfm}} when nominating infoboxes in the future. [[Special:Contributions/31.153.43.216|31.153.43.216]] ([[User talk:31.153.43.216|talk]]) 17:01, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
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