Property talk:P941

Latest comment: 22 hours ago by SM5POR in topic Source reference obviously not needed?

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inspired by
work, human, place or event which inspired this creative work or fictional entity
Descriptionthis creative work is influenced by another creative work, human, or event
Representsartistic inspiration (Q196668), inspired (Q68186798)
Data typeItem
Domain
According to this template: creative works
According to statements in the property:
work (Q386724), genre (Q483394), occurrence (Q1190554), artwork series (Q15709879), mythical entity (Q24334685), musical group (Q215380), fictional character (Q95074) or fictional entity (Q14897293)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuescreative works, humans, events (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleThe Matrix (Q83495)Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Q92640)
Alice (Q1269082)Alice Liddell (Q234185)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P941 (Q21037766)
See alsoinfluenced by (P737), school of (P1780), movement (P135), based on (P144), reply to (P2675), cites work (P2860)
Lists
Living people protection classproperty likely to be challenged (Q44597997)
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total8,057
Main statement7,91398.2% of uses
Qualifier1441.8% of uses
Search for values
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Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P941#Type Q386724, Q483394, Q1190554, Q15709879, Q24334685, Q215380, Q95074, Q14897293, SPARQL

Definition

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Why "inspired by" only by works? Do we need a separate property for (inspired by) a person or an event? --Kolja21 (talk) 21:44, 21 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I agree. Kvardek du (talk) 23:28, 14 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Agreed. I'll be bold and add human (Q5) and occurrence (Q1190554) to the constraints. The current constraint violations show that human (Q5) is by far the most chosen "incorrect" value type. Runner1928 (talk) 20:42, 3 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Inverse

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Does this have an inverse? --Aubrey (talk) 15:16, 23 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Source reference obviously not needed?

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Is there a need to provide authoritative source references for statements involving inspired by (P941), even if the inspiration indicated is pretty obvious from a layman's comparison of the two works. The case I have in mind is

Tintin in Tibet (Q2434476)inspired by (P941)Lost Horizon (Q1199794)

I find it extremely hard to believe that Hergé came up with this Tintin adventure completely independently without either reading the novel or watching Capra's 1937 film adaptation of the same (perhaps both). Yet I (pun not intended) find no mention of this connection in either of the corresponding Wikipedia articles. Is it simply too obvious an influence for any literature historian to have seriously researched the subject? i thought it was common knowledge after my father (Sven Andersson 1931-2023, a math teacher) who had the novel in his bookshelf (I never read it myself) pointed out the similarities to me in the early 1970's (when I received the Tintin in Tibet album for Christmas). If there is consensus about the obviousness of the connection, do we need a new {obvious} qualifier, to explain the lack of source references, or would that be a violation of the Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:No original research (Q117805922) rule (potentially leading to Wikidata referring to itself in a circular fashion as the source of the obviously true statement)? Any other suggested solutions? If someone were to conduct original research, could that be published in, say, Wikibooks?

Also what about the ambivalence in picking either Hilton's novel or Capra's film as the main source of inspiration? Maybe Hergé's biographer has an opinion on the matter? Can we express a logical disjunction (Q1651704) relationship between the two possible values? --SM5POR (talk) 09:37, 10 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ï'm honestly sorry for posting this drivel; and I apologize for having taken up anyone's time reading it;o I'll retract all statements I have made on this in recent days, referring to the kind correction and my response given at httpː//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tintin_in_Tibet#Influences. SM5POR (talk) 17:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

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