Talk:G8+5

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Due to the lack of positive sources and the strange composition of the article I believe this should be deleted from Wikipedia. It is unimportant and not factual. It is engineered in a manner assuming "G8 + 5" is an actual organization, which it is not. Rather it is a neologism from a news article and used satirically.

-mattawa (added 15:58, 5 April 2007)

The article states that the G8+5 is a 'group of leaders' rather than an organisation. The G8 itself is not a formally constituted organisation either. As with all Wikipedia articles, help in improving the content and composition would be welcome. Gralo 13:18, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the deletion of this article. Not only it lacks sources but it is also a bit innacurate, e.g. South Africa is not a relevant leading economy.

Don't you believe it's better to improve this article, instead of deleting it? I think the proposal is usefull, but it need a cleanliness and more sources.-Frank.

I agree that it would be better to improve the article rather than delete it. The article is far from perfect, but it hardly warrants a deletion, as it is clear that the writer did not make the material up. Furthermore, the claim that the article is "unimportant and not factual" is not based on any solid evidence. Also, whether or not South Africa is "a relevant leading economy" is insignificant in light of the fact that world leaders recognize it as a member of the G8+5. That is, if for whatever reason one believes that S. Africa should be removed from the G8+5, then the talk page is not the place to vent one's frustration. Remember, Wikipedia is supposed to be a depository of information; it is not a forum for people with an ax to grind.--Ocram

Where does that come from? Isn't it orginal research? --170.66.1.233 (talk) 16:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• G8+5 → G7+5
• G8 Research Group → G7 Research Group
• European Union and the G8 → European Union and the G7

– The title of this article is obsolete since 2014, because after the expulsion of Russia from the G8, the group has again become the G7, and therefore the article should be renamed as the G7+5. (The "G8+5" should be put as a history section of the renamed (and enlarged) article.) The expulsion of Russia looks more or less permanent (since neither side will budge on the issue of the annexation of Crimea, the reason for its expulsion), so the request can be made. Artoxx (talk) 17:23, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Procedural comment. Combined 3 RMs on G8/G7 into 1 discussion here. Reasoning given for G8 Research Group also specified: ... Much more importantly, this group is using the name "G7 Information Centre" in its website, even though its website retains the address http://www.g8.utoronto.ca/ . — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 23:52, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose until such time as someone presents good evidence that the common name has changed. Dicklyon (talk) 02:52, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Support The old names including "G8" are no longer in current use. The "G8" has in effect ceased to exist in 2014 and the remaining 7 members have reconstituted themselves as the "G7". In the news outlets and other recent sources, the names "G7", "G7 Research Group" and "'European Union' and 'G7'" are now exclusively used; the "G8" is used in the past tense and as historical reference. SednaXV (talk) 14:07, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]