Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 April 12

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 17:42, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:Wikimania (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unnecessary template. All the conference links redirect back to Wikimania and there is only 1 other related link. Templates are for navigating between pages, this is just redirects to the same page Joseph2302 (talk) 17:32, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Unnecessary navbox. --Soumyabrata ^{stay at home} _{wash your hands} ^{to protect from coronavirus} 12:49, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 17:54, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:ChrisGBot2Header (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:PockBotData (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:PockBotFooter (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The bots that process these templates have not been running since at least 2011, rendering them useless. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:52, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Wrong venue Template redirects go to RfD (non-admin closure) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:21, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:Stammbaum (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template redirects to Template:Family tree which will eventually be deleted as it is deprecated in favour of Template:Tree chart. All uses of Stammbaum have been migrated to Tree chart. Tango Mike Bravo (talk) 11:31, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question Since the purpose of this template was to aid the importing of articles from German Wikipedia, will the German version of the template be shimmed and substituted by Template:Tree chart, so editors don't have to do a repetitive job that shims, redirects and bots can do? Bermicourt (talk) 14:56, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 April 21. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 17:47, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:Baseball_in_Ireland (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Al-Qaeda. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:3iC-alQaeda (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Al-Qaeda (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:3iC-alQaeda with Template:Al-Qaeda.
Could this be merged into the "Leadership" and "Former leadership" sections (or subsections of these) of the destination template? PPEMES (talk) 12:38, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge. "Third in Command" is a part of the leadership. --Gonnym (talk) 10:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge. Very small template with overlapping scope. --MarioGom (talk) 14:00, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Al-Qaeda. Without icons, that is. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:Al-Qaeda and direct affiliates (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Al-Qaeda (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Al-Qaeda and direct affiliates with Template:Al-Qaeda.
Could this be consolidated into the "Affiliates" section in the destination template? PPEMES (talk) 12:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge without icons. There is already an Affiliates section. --Gonnym (talk) 10:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge without icons. --MarioGom (talk) 13:59, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Al-Qaeda. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:AQChiefs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Al-Qaeda (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:AQChiefs with Template:Al-Qaeda.
Could this be merged into the "Leadership" and "Former leadership" sections of the destination template? PPEMES (talk) 12:29, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge. "chiefs" are part of the leadership. --Gonnym (talk) 10:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge. --MarioGom (talk) 14:00, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was merge and delete. The IP makes a valid point that "obligatory prayers" are not specific to any given religion. Obviously there is no prejudice against further discussion and potential modification of the target template in order to potentially make the specific obligatory prayers listed more obvious. Primefac (talk) 19:06, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:The obligatory prayers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Islamic prayer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:The obligatory prayers with Template:Islamic prayer.
Same scope. Better consolidate the information? PPEMES (talk) 09:21, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Template:Islamic prayer I think is a more general template collecting all types of prayers and observances, including non-obligatory and optional prayers. The first template is for the obligatory daily prayers which are part of the Muslim faith. For the readers, it's important to maintain the distinction between both. Mar4d (talk) 10:11, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, and couldn't obligatory prayers be distinguished by a below bar legend, saying "Bold: = obligatory prayers, or some similar solution? We use this system in a lot of templates with similar function of distinguishing a specific group of entries within a wider, collected topic. See for instance Template: Liturgical year of the Catholic Church. PPEMES (talk) 13:37, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment if this is merged, then there should be no redirect remaining, as Islam isn't the only place with obligatory prayers. If this is kept, then it should be renamed without leaving a redirect behind, to {{Islamic obligatory prayers}} -- 65.94.170.207 (talk) 16:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge. The prayers are already in the bigger templates anyways. --Gonnym (talk) 10:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 17:43, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:Chant (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Christian music (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Chant with Template:Christian music.
Do we really have to complicate this scope with a standalone, embedded template rather than with contents in a proper section? PPEMES (talk) 09:09, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment "chant" is certainly wrong for a template name considering its Christian-only content, as it is undue Christian bias; not being a general template for chants. -- 65.94.170.207 (talk) 19:47, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • MERGE per nom, and delete {{chant}} because of the biased nature of the name (do not leave a redirect behind) ... alternatively it must be renamed to {{Christian chants}} if it isn't merged (if the edit history needs to remain, then that also must move to {{Christian chants}} ) -- 65.94.170.207 (talk) 19:47, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose They're two separate topics. Each one is large enough for its own nav box. There's no benefit to readers of Christian punk bands to have a link to Beneventan chant and vice versa. The chant nav has 18 items that are self-contained while Christian music is too large and disorganized. If anything, it could do with a split. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:18, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• If {{Christian music}} will continue to host the {{Chant}} content, then merge. It's already there. --Gonnym (talk) 10:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose the "Christian music" articles might possibly benefit from having the chant articles, but the chant articles do not benefit from the Christian music template. Why? Because you do not need to understand modern Christian music to comprehend chant. Yet due to historical developments (especially the distinction between rhythmic and melismatic chant), there the chant articles could possibly serve as helpful background to understanding Christian music's historical development.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 21:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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