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*I have to admit that I'm not looking forward to "Portals II: Revenge of the ArbCom", and would like to forestall that as long as possible. It doesn't look like this matter has seen ANI or AN yet, so I don't think traditional dispute resolution has been exhausted. Just because we've heard a BHG and portals case before doesn't mean we have to hear it this time and at so early a stage, so I'm inclined to decline unless someone has a very compelling reason why only we can fix this. [[User:CaptainEek|<span style="color:#6a1f7f">'''CaptainEek'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:CaptainEek|<span style="font-size:82%"><span style="color:#a479e5">''Edits Ho Cap'n!''</span></span>]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/CaptainEek|⚓]] 09:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC) |
*I have to admit that I'm not looking forward to "Portals II: Revenge of the ArbCom", and would like to forestall that as long as possible. It doesn't look like this matter has seen ANI or AN yet, so I don't think traditional dispute resolution has been exhausted. Just because we've heard a BHG and portals case before doesn't mean we have to hear it this time and at so early a stage, so I'm inclined to decline unless someone has a very compelling reason why only we can fix this. [[User:CaptainEek|<span style="color:#6a1f7f">'''CaptainEek'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:CaptainEek|<span style="font-size:82%"><span style="color:#a479e5">''Edits Ho Cap'n!''</span></span>]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/CaptainEek|⚓]] 09:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC) |
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*I concur with Eek; is there a reason this has not been to AN or ANI yet? [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 09:50, 12 May 2022 (UTC) |
*I concur with Eek; is there a reason this has not been to AN or ANI yet? [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 09:50, 12 May 2022 (UTC) |
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*:'''Decline''' as premature and/or stale, depending on which end of the timeline you want to come from. Northamerica1000 hasn't even edited the Iceland portal since 2020, so bringing up a two-year old thread containing a single reply without any further discussion before ArbCom is a waste of time. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 11:57, 12 May 2022 (UTC) |
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Dispute on Portal:Iceland
Initiated by Snævar (talk) at 08:07, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Involved parties
- Snævar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- Northamerica1000 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- BrownHairedGirl (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- User talk:Northamerica1000#Portal:Iceland Arbitration notification
- User talk:BrownHairedGirl#Requesting comment as third party in arbitration case
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
Tried talking to him at Portal_talk:Iceland#Portal expanded, but he ignored half of it.
Statement by Snævar
This issue is about Portal:Iceland started in October 2019 when Northamerica1000 refused to accept BrownHairedGirl's revert Special:Diff/920921460, which was made because NorthAmerica did not discuss the changes he made on the talk page of the portal. After the change, admittedly NorthAmerica did post an message to the talk page about proposed changes at Portal_talk:Iceland#Portal expanded, BUT ignored half of the opposition to his changes and made them anyway. He also continued not discussing most of his changes and still "silently" manually reverts changes, including this revert of mine.
I have some experience myself of dealing with disputes on my homewiki (iswiki), but that is not really possible when the opposing party behaves like this. It takes both parties to resolve it, and he does not talk enough for that to work. I tried cooling the issue down, as you can see by the date of the revert I made, but it makes no difference. I have posted an talk page message with every revert I have made, unlike NorthAmerica.
The proper way of dealing with this situation would have been to talk the issue right away, instead of manually reverting. He should have discussed his changes first. Northamerica1000 behaviour is not acceptable at all, and I am requesting an topic ban on the portal.
Statement by Northamerica1000
Statement by BrownHairedGirl
Statement by Kusma
As there has been only about one revert and one talk page edit and no community attempt at resolution, this case should be declined. Also note that Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Portals#BrownHairedGirl_prohibited prohibits BrownHairedGirl from participating in this discussion. —Kusma (talk) 10:00, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Note all of BrownHairedGirl's edit to portals during this time were reverted with them being restricted from the namespace and being desysopped. North was asked to post on talk pages about changes...they did do this in the case.....odd to see a revert 3 years after the fact. Moxy- 11:40, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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Dispute on Portal:Iceland: Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter <0/1/0>
Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse)
- I have to admit that I'm not looking forward to "Portals II: Revenge of the ArbCom", and would like to forestall that as long as possible. It doesn't look like this matter has seen ANI or AN yet, so I don't think traditional dispute resolution has been exhausted. Just because we've heard a BHG and portals case before doesn't mean we have to hear it this time and at so early a stage, so I'm inclined to decline unless someone has a very compelling reason why only we can fix this. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 09:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- I concur with Eek; is there a reason this has not been to AN or ANI yet? Primefac (talk) 09:50, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- Decline as premature and/or stale, depending on which end of the timeline you want to come from. Northamerica1000 hasn't even edited the Iceland portal since 2020, so bringing up a two-year old thread containing a single reply without any further discussion before ArbCom is a waste of time. Primefac (talk) 11:57, 12 May 2022 (UTC)