User talk:Mellowish126

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George Henry Lowe (American climber), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Theroadislong (talk) 08:47, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mellowish126! You created a thread called Repeated citations at Wikipedia:Teahouse, but it has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please create a new thread. Archival by Lowercase sigmabot III, notification delivery by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} (ban this bot) or {{nobots}} (ban all bots) on your user talk page. Muninnbot (talk) 19:02, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Chris Jones. Thanks! -- NotCharizard ^🗨 11:06, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi NotCharizard,

Thanks so much for reviewing the article. I understand the concern about an inadequate number of secondary sources. In my opinion, the articles created for the American Alpine Journal should somewhat be able to count even if they were authored by the subject of the article. The AAJ has pretty specific expectations for submitted climbs and the format has always been in first-person reports.

From the AAC website:

"The AAJ publishes first-person reports about big new routes, first free ascents, and significant attempts and mountain exploration anywhere in the world. Most routes are at least five or six pitches long, but we make some exceptions.

There are two ways to report new climbs:

Send your new route reports with this Submission Form.

Send reports and photos to AAJ or to these editors:

Alaska: Andy Anderson

All Lower 48 states (Washington, Colorado, Montana, etc.): Michael Levy

Canada, Mexico, Middle East, Africa, New Zealand: Whitney Clark

South America (except Bolivia): Erik Rieger

Himalaya, Karakoram, China, Bolivia, Greenland, Europe, Antarctica: Lindsay Griffin

Russia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan: Dougald MacDonald"

Within the submission form, they state:

"What We Publish

Since 1929 the AAJ has been the world’s “journal of record” for documenting significant new climbs. We seek reports on big new routes anywhere in the world—usually at least five pitches long. If the route or developments in an area are especially significant, we will document shorter climbs. We may report a repeat ascent if the peak or route has not been climbed in many years; if there have been major changes in conditions on the mountain or crag; if the style is new (example: first free ascent); if the ascent was exceptionally fast; if it was the first winter ascent; or if the report supplies vital information for future climbers.

We do not publish reports on first "national" ascents (for example, the first American or Italian ascent)."

HOWEVER, I think there have been some other articles published in magazines. Some of them might be difficult to pull up because the magazines went under before they had an internet presence. I'll do my best to fill them in.

Also, I agree that the Supertopo forum is not a strong source - I just think it's an interesting bit of climbing history as written by the community itself. It certainly doesn't count as a secondary source either. It might not be appropriate for inclusion in Wikipedia.

Anyway, I'll continue to work on the article and I really appreciate your review.

Best,

mellowish Mellowish126 (talk) 17:10, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there Mellowish126,

I moved the page to draft space, I guessed based on the note on top and the AFC draft template that you intended to create it in draft space instead of main. The page seems decently ready for mainspace though, inline citations would be appreciated but other than that it seems all good. If you want a review please let me know :D (please  mention me on reply) Justiyaya 03:54, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Justiyaya Thank you so much. I was mortified when it went into articles for creation. I hadn't done any of the citations I intended to do. I'll reach back out to you when I think it is worthy of review. The topic is certainly worthwhile but it's complicated so the article needs more work. Mellowish126 (talk) 13:10, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome! although the mistake wasn't submitting it through articles for creation (AFC), you put it into article space instead instead of draft space (essentally skipping AFC and publishing directly). I would've honestly marked it as reviewed it if there wasn't the note at the very top, the article was good enough. AFC is still a good process to through for your first few articles (~5) but is a bit slow because of the backlog. The article is looking good, remember that you can publish without finishing and work on it afterwards! Justiyaya 14:55, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Justiyaya Gotcha. I didn't have permission previously to simply publish an article. Thank you for clarifying! Mellowish126 (talk) 22:31, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by WikiOriginal-9 was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
• reliable
• secondary
• independent of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Not enough independent, significant coverage.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 08:22, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Mellowish126. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:1974 International Climbing Disaster, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 22:09, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Mellowish126. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Chris Jones (mountain climber), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 00:05, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Mellowish126. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Chris Jones".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:24, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]