Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ze'ev Smason

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete as copyvio per CSD G12, without prejudice to re-creation if notability can be established and the article rewritten afresh. Although it is unfortunate that the violation was discovered after the AfD was started, we're better off getting rid of the infringing material as soon as possible. — TKD::Talk 13:17, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ze'ev Smason

NN pulpit rabbi, no different from any other. WP:BIO. - crz crztalk 23:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletions. - crz crztalk 00:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Note how the stub tag mentions notable but the article isn't. Tarret 00:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, fails WP:BIO, Smason is no more notable than any other rabbi.--TBCΦtalk? 00:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - you'd think being "the spiritual leader of [...] the largest orthodox congregation in St. Louis" would make you have more than 35 ghits, wouldn't you? MER-C 01:38, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Dude!! There probably aren't 35 orthodox in St. Louis!! It's like saying, the spiritual leader of the Maltese community in Iowa. - crz crztalk 02:09, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's exactly what I meant. MER-C 06:11, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Unnotable.--Arjun 02:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no assertion of why this subject is particularly notable. Seraphimblade 02:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep - I know more than one Orthodox Jew from SL, but I'm not sure of the actual size of the community there. The head Rabbi of the largest congregation may be worth an article. According to the website, the synagogue is 100 years old. The fact that Aish has a center there, and that he was its director, may also be worth something. On the other hand, the content in the article was lifted from http://www.nhbz.org/aboutus.asp. --Eliyak T·C 05:20, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- OK. I asked another administrator to delete it on G12. Aish has a couple of dozen centers all over the country and overseas - all their directors are local pulpit rabbis, more or less. Neither the Aish thing nor the age of the shul make a shred of difference. - crz crztalk 05:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Requesting speedy deletion while there's already a contested AfD going on is petty wikilawyering and contrary to Don't be a dick!. You might be right on the exact rule that applies, but that doesn't make it a good thing to do. Unfocused 05:47, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - Well, I am a lawyer, and I am on wiki... but seriously, would you rather I zap it outright as a speedy copyvio? Contested or not on notability, what does it have to do with the price of tea in China? - crz crztalk 05:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge to article about his congregation. Largest Orthodox Jewish congregation in St. Louis is sufficient to suggest that is very likely someone from St. Louis will come here looking for more good, neutral, encyclopedic information about the guy in the foreseeable future. And that's the kind of desire for information that we can serve better than anyone else. Un focused 05:47, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.