User talk:Akrasia25/Archive 2

(Moved here as IP editor put it at the top of my talk page.)

If you that much consern so give proper citations in Nanda dynasty page their is not mention Books name understand? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kharari (talk • contribs) 02:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

I only reverted your edits which had no references. I am not knowledgeable about this subject matter to do more.--Akrasia25 (talk) 03:48, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

(Moved here as editor put it at the top of my talk page.)

Hi Akrasia25, could you have a look at the article on Bunt community & shetty.

Both the other editors Sitush & Linguisticgeek seem too close to a the subject & are therefore trying hide the facts from Wikipedia. Kindly look at the below info

The following article “http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/shetty-brother-in-a-bind-over-false-sc-certificate/958780/“ clearly states that shettys & Bunts of Karnataka come under Backward class. Infact, Bunts of Maharashtra come under Scheduled caste. So, why are they removing it? To add further proof, let’s look at the Bunt community name, as cited in the stable Wikipedia version. They are also called “Nadava”. The “Nadava” community comes under OBC list as given in the official Indian government website “http://www.ncbc.nic.in/Writereaddata/cl/karnataka.pdf” So, clearly all the shettys including the Bunts come under OBC category as cited in Official Indian Government Websites data too.

I also request you to have a look at the conversation between Linguisticgeek & Sitush, on the talk page of “sitush”. One of their conversation goes like this ”Let’s flush it out one way or another”. It clearly shows their bias. Look at the facts, I presented & make them edit. They are trying to suppress facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.209.14 (talk) 08:39, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

I am out of my depth and experience here. I am not an administrator. Maybe it would help to add references to edits that you wish to make.--Akrasia25 (talk) 03:51, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I see in a recent addition to Llandovery epoch you included material copied from Ordovician–Silurian extinction events. That's okay, but you have to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. I've added the attribution for this particular instance, which is done by stating in your edit summary where you got the content. Please make sure that you follow this licensing requirement when copying within Wikipedia in the future. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:57, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

@Diannaa: I thought I did that when I put {main|Ordovician–Silurian extinction events} at the top of that section. Isn't that better as the attribution will stay more visible? Should I take down those links?--Akrasia25 (talk) 16:04, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

But that's not what our license requirement is. Please see WP:Copying within Wikipedia, where details are given as to exactly how to correctly provide attribution. "At minimum, this means providing an edit summary at the destination page – that is, the page into which the material is copied – stating that content was copied, together with a link to the source (copied-from) page, e.g. Copied content from [[<page name>]]; see that page's history for attribution." So a hatnote is not considered as attribution, which is required under the terms of our license. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 16:11, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

This is a useful read. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:30, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Continues to vandalize. What ought to be done next? --''Paul, in Saudi'' (talk) 02:35, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Seems to be a grammar school in Sydney. Keep reverting vandalism and an admin will block IP eventually.--Akrasia25 (talk) 02:53, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

OK. Thank you.--''Paul, in Saudi'' (talk) 13:58, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, and thank you for your contributions. If you link "dichotomous" in a botanical context, then dichotomy isn't the right target. You can link to either dichotomous venation (if it's about patterns on leaves) or to dichotomous branching otherwise. Also, please don't link individual words within citations. – Uanfala (talk) 03:12, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Some further points: in botanical contexts, if the text already defines what "dichotomous" means, then there's no need to link at this stage as the link target is nothing more than a definition itself. And in generic contexts, there's usually no need to link at all: people know what "dichotomy" means, and having the word as a link is probably going to be more distracting than helpful. – Uanfala (talk) 03:16, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

@Uanfala: Sorry about that. I thought that without a link it might not be easy to understand to a general reader (WP:ENC). just a belt and suspenders approach. I thought it was better to put a link just in case. I will move to look for links for dichotomous branching. Best,--Akrasia25 (talk) 03:24, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Have you seen Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking? I think that's recommended reading, and many of the points I'm making are there. As for "dichotomy" again, it's a bit of a borderline case: it's possibly some readers won't know what it means, but that will depend on the article and the context, so yeah, sometimes a link might be appropriate. – Uanfala (talk) 03:29, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

@Uanfala: Thanks. I am reading Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking now. I started from some of the philosophy, math and logic articles and they are too dense with jargon to understand without a link and thought that others would feel the same. I guess I went and linked a few botanical articles too.--Akrasia25 (talk) 03:42, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

And one more thing: generally, it's not a good idea to link individual words within a citation or a bibliography item (as here): such links don't serve any purpose and can be distracting. Of course, the whole title can be turned into a link to the text if it is available online (or to the wikipedia article about this text, in the rare cases where there is one). – Uanfala (talk) 21:45, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

I see that you've again linked individual phrases in a citation here and here. Do you think such links are really an improvement? I came across one error as well: here the reference is to the mantle of a planetary body, not the Earth, so a link like upper [[Mantle (geology)|mantle]] would be better (or alternatively, a link can be pointed to the article that discusses the mantle of that particular planetary body). And one observation: here the link is not wrong at all, but the context is a bit too broad for such a link: see, that's the first sentence of a general article about climate, and it makes mention of (and links to) general concepts like hydrosphere and lithosphere; the mention of upper mantle serves only to define the meaning of "lithosphere"; linking that is not necessary for understanding the article, it adds clutter and if a reader is really interested to know more about the upper mantle they can clink through via the article about the lithosphere. – Uanfala (talk) 03:43, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

You raise some good points. Thanks for spending some time on these. I have seen other links being made in citations so I thought that was ok. I stopped looking for those links. I like your comment on a planetary upper mantle vs the Earth's upper mantle.  Done I will reflect on your other points and see about correcting any. However, the lithosphere is different than the upper mantle. There is some overlap in area of course but crust and mantle are distinguished by composition while the lithosphere and asthenosphere are defined by a change in mechanical properties. I am not sure that the author(s) of Climate system have it right but they seem to make a distinction and I think that the reader might like to have easy links to both articles to know the difference between the lithosphere and upper mantle. Another option would be to remove the reference to crust and upper mantle and just leave the lithosphere link.--Akrasia25 (talk) 14:17, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

That's a fair point: I'm not into geology so I wouldn't have noticed. Maybe dropping the reference to upper mantle is the right call then, not least because the upper mantle is hardly relevant for climate processes. Though there needs to be some text explaining what the lithosphere is. Any ideas? If the same sentence defines hydrosphere as "water", then it might make sense to define the lithosphere as "rocks" or "the Earth's rocky layer", do you think that's too silly? – Uanfala (talk) 14:49, 15 June 2019 (UTC)  Done

Ok, I think I have the main ones corrected now. I am reading Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking but if you think I really should go back and correct the citation links I will go do that. At least from now on I will not add links in the references. Also, I boldly removed all reference to Upper mantle in the Climate system article and lets see if someone thinks differently. Thanks for your advice as I do like links.--Akrasia25 (talk) 20:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! There's no need to worry about any links you've already introduced within citations. – Uanfala (talk) 20:37, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

• Akrasia25, you're still linking individual words within titles as here and here. Have you changed your mind about the utility of these links? You've also linked words within template-formatted citations, breaking the |url= supplied link in the process, as here and here. Occasional slip-ups are inevitable, but I've found these four after only inspecting ten or so of your recent edits, and that's a very very high error rate. The tool you're using – Find link – can be wonderfully helpful, but editors who use it are expected to always look at the context first and to take the same amount of care as they would with a manual edit. It's usually also a good idea to look at the result of the edit, either in preview mode or after saving it: that way for example the broken citations would have been easily noticed. – Uanfala (talk) 01:39, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Ugh, thanks please stick with me. I thought I was being more careful. This link produced tens and tens of results including some for upper mantle of birds. I will look at every edit from now on. For now I am finished using the tool. My next page is the Geology of Ontario so I don’t think there will be many links for that.--Akrasia25 (talk) 14:27, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

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