Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KHFD

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. One does not appear likely to emerge here, and the desired outcome does not require AfD. Please continue this discussion on the Talk page. Star Mississippi 03:13, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Looking at a web search, the airport appears to be the overwhelmingly primary topic. The disambiguation can be replaced by a redirect and a hatnote at the airport article (a previous attempt at redirecting the article has been reverted by the page creator). 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:25, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:25, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Transportation. Skynxnex (talk) 03:34, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Procedural close this is a requested move, not a deletion nomination. Thryduulf (talk) 07:47, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm not requesting any moves. 1234qwer1234qwer4 11:59, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To the nominator, please provide a link to your proposed Redirect target article which should have been included in your nomination statement. At least that's what I think you are asking for, I'm not sure. Also, you didn't need an AFD to turn an article page into a Redirect. AFD is for proposing that articles be deleted.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:57, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to the airport article, which was implied by the nomination. Also, I didn't feel like immediately redirecting a disambiguation page since it likely doesn't have a lot of watchers so figured to draw some attention to it. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:04, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, since I only just realised that @Bkonrad (who did not comment here) has added another meaning, it seems logical to just move this page to KHFD (disambiguation). 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:15, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry but please don't just refer to "the airport article", please add a link to the specific redirect target article you want. If this discussion closes as a Redirect, the closer shouldn't have to go looking themselves to find out what you meant and could have mentioned in your original nomination statement. Many thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:45, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone who cannot figure this out from looking at the page should not be closing this discussion IMO. And looking at the page should be done by a closer. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's with the hostility? I'm just asking you to make things easy for our closers who look at dozens of AFDs a day. Closers shouldn't have to read your mind and guess which article you meant, they usually focus on the substance of the discussion, they generally don't review the article, looking for probable target articles. There could be several airports mentioned in it. I asked you to do something extremely simple and you seem unable to do this. I think anyone who cannot figure out how to include a link in an AFD opinion shouldn't be suggesting a redirect or merging. It's Wikipedia 101. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There could be several airports mentioned in it. – there are not, and my phrasing is unambiguous. If there were, I would have chosen a different one. And in fact something as extremely simple as this could have been done together with your very first comment if you deemed it necessary to link it here. If it's somehow still unclear, yes, the article is Hartford-Brainard Airport, the only airport mentioned on the (originally 2-, now) 3-entry dab page. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:49, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: According to WP:REDIRECT: "If editors cannot agree, the content issues should be discussed at the relevant talk page, and other methods of dispute resolution should be used, such as restoring the article and nominating the article for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion.^[1]", citing an RFC. So it's not necessary, but according to that guideline when the article is contested some form of outside input is necessary and AFD is an option.

It does seem kind of like a requested move what with everyone talking about the primary topic and all: the thing I just quoted doesn't mention disambiguations?

Airport mentioned seems to be the Hartford–Brainard Airport.

I guess a {{redirect}} template could be added, and a KHFD (disambiguation) page could be created?

Support redirect on the grounds that the other options are the former name of a no-longer existent radio station and part of the code of another small radio station that doesn't actually have its own article. Mrfoogles (talk) 02:12, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The other option would be moving this to dispute resolution but since it's already gotten started it seems like just procedural hassle. Mrfoogles (talk) 02:13, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep (and tag for clean up). The disambiguation page (as at the time of this comment) lists 3 legitimate uses. It would be difficult to assert a primary topic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Procedurally, I could withdraw this nomination and request a move of the disambiguation page now. But I would say that an active airport is primary to a former callsign of a defunct municipal radio station and a municipal TV station (with 600 Google hits for "KHFD-LD" vs 88000 for "KHFD"). 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:52, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.