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From the "Description" section: "They are fast-growing plants, with a growth rate of up to 1.6 metres (5.2 ft) per day.[5]" The cited source (Flindt, Rainer (2006). Amazing Numbers in Biology. Berlin: Springer Verlag. p. 149. ISBN 978-354030146-2.) mentions two sources for this information: 1. Oppenheimer, C. and L. Pincussen: Tabulae biologicae. vols. I – V. Berlin 1925 – 1927 2. Meyers Handbuch über Mensch, Tier und Pflanze. Mannheim 1964

I cannot procure a copy of either sources without shelling out money and waiting for delivery, but seeing as the quoted number is beyond ludicrous, I believe until proven otherwise the sentence quoted above should be removed along with its reference.

I propose if needed the following: "They are fast-growing plants, with a growth rate of up to 17centimetres (6.75 in) per day. ^[1]"

I am not a fan myself of using such an old reference but its at least somewhat believable.

Maxwell, Walter (1896). "The Rate and Mode of Growth of Banana Leaves", Botanical Gazette, 21 (6)

Botanical Gazette, Vol. 21, No. 6 (Jun., 1896), pp. 365-370 (6 pages) Christopher.degrauwe (talk) 11:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More for 'History of banana' than this article, perhaps...... Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Chiswick Chap: Though it's in its own section, I believe Christopher.degrauwe was including this reference as a source for their edit request just above. While I'm also hesitant to use an 1896 source, I agree with their opinion that 17 cm growth per day makes much more sense than 1.6 meters. I couldn't find anything with a quick search, but do you have a third source somewhere that could be cross-referenced? DrOrinScrivello (talk) 15:12, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Victorian botanists won't be wrong about a simple measurement of that kind. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:51, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But that's my point, it's the Victorian botanist (Maxwell) who is providing figures in the centimeters. The cited source in the article is from a book called Amazing Numbers in Biology that itself cites two (inaccessible to me) German sources. But 1.6 meters a day?! I have owned a banana plant, they grow fast but not the size of a human each day. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 16:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We violently agree. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

George Freeman, the man who discovered bananas. The year was 1732, the Monarch Voyage was in place, George Freeman and his crew of five men crashed in an island named Jamaica to discover the fruit Bananas. 216.97.205.37 (talk) 14:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your thoughts. Wikipedia is an evidence-based encyclopedia; people have been growing bananas for at least 10,000 years, as cited in the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:13, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]