Talk:Camp Jened

A fact from Camp Jened appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 April 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Camp Jened, a summer camp for disabled people, was heavily influenced by the 1960s counterculture and hippie values?

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:04, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that the summer camp Jened for disabled people was heavily influenced by the 1960s counterculture and hippie values?~~ "Crip Camp".

Reviewed: Laia Manzanares

Created by Treetopz (talk). Nominated by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) at 04:49, 5 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

General eligibility:

New enough:
Long enough:
Other problems:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: --evrik ^(talk) 16:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alt1 ... that Camp Jened, a summer camp for disabled people, was heavily influenced by the 1960s counterculture and hippie values? "Crip Camp".
File:Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Please review the hooks. QPQ needed. --evrik ^(talk) 16:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Evrik: QPQ done. The hook indeed sounds better. Thanks. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 13:43, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I can't approve my own hook. --evrik ^(talk) 16:12, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

While it does say that the man behind the camp is/was "something of a hippie", the statement within the article, used here as the hook, is unsupported by the two references. The thrust of this social experiment seems to be eliminating "stereotypes and labels" which doesn't necessarily translate to "hippie/counterculture" as imagined in the article.Gulbenk (talk) 02:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gulbenk: Here is a better source [1]. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 02:38, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that will do nicely. Attach that to the appropriate line in the article, and we should be able to move this along.Gulbenk (talk)

@Gulbenk: Done. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 03:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good. I'll sign off on this once you complete the QPQ, which appears to be still pending.Gulbenk (talk) 03:07, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the NYT says: "Distractify, [is] a viral content site that fills Facebook news feeds with feel-good posts built largely on repackaging content from other websites." As such, it likely exercises limited editorial control over content. While a news aggregator might be an acceptable source to Wikipedia, let's not use it here to reinforce this hook. Gulbenk (talk) 03:37, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gulbenk, Removed Distractify. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 03:54, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No problems, ready for DYK.Gulbenk (talk) 20:43, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Location

The location of the camp is approximate. Someone more familiar with the camp should adjust the gps location. --evrik ^(talk) 16:01, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]