Talk:Japanese cruiser Mikuma

This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Military history: Maritime / Asian / Japanese / World War II This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status: Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met Associated task forces: /  Maritime warfare task force Asian military history task force Japanese military history task force World War II task force Japan: Military history Low‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Japan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Japan-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project, participate in relevant discussions, and see lists of open tasks. Current time in Japan: 09:09, November 11, 2024 (JST, Reiwa 6) (Refresh)JapanWikipedia:WikiProject JapanTemplate:WikiProject JapanJapan-related articles Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. This article is supported by the joint Japanese military history task force. WikiProject Japan to do list: edit history watch purge Peer review: None A-class review: None Featured content candidates –  Articles: None Pictures: None Lists: None Good article nominations: Vinland Saga (TV series), Godzilla Minus One Add requested images to articles that need them. Pages for Deletion: Participate in Japan-related deletion discussions. Improve and expand Japan-related stubs. Create some requested articles. Help translate an article from the Japanese Wikipedia into English. Assess unassessed articles Ships C‑class This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ships, a project to improve all Ship-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other articles, please join the project, or contribute to the project discussion. All interested editors are welcome. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.ShipsWikipedia:WikiProject ShipsTemplate:WikiProject ShipsShips articles C This article has been given a rating which conflicts with the project-independent quality rating in the banner shell. Please resolve this conflict if possible. Shipwrecks C‑class Mid‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Shipwrecks, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of shipwreck-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ShipwrecksWikipedia:WikiProject ShipwrecksTemplate:WikiProject ShipwrecksShipwreck articles C This article has been given a rating which conflicts with the project-independent quality rating in the banner shell. Please resolve this conflict if possible. Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale. Shipwreck-related priority open tasks: edit history watch purge To Do Lady Elizabeth (1879) Clean up typos Currently working on it-----Completed! Improve grammar Add any additions if needed Still adding more information Discuss desired additions -None

Another article states that the Mikuma was eventually scuttled by a Japanese destroyer. I gather that's wrong? --Kizor 12:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to [1], Japanese Admiral Kondo ordered the destroyer Asashio to scuttle Mikuma but when Asashio arrived Mikuma had already sank on it's own. What other article says that Mikuma was scuttled? If you could fix it, that would be very helpful. Cla68 12:25, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was SBD Dauntless. Fixed. --Kizor 14:25, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article states under "Battle of Midway" that:

"Kumano signaled a 45° simultaneous turn to starboard to avoid possible torpedoes. The emergency turn was correctly executed by the flagship and Suzuya, but the third ship in the line, Mikuma, erroneously made a 90° turn. Behind her, Mogami turned 45° as commanded. This resulted in a collision in which Mogami rammed Mikuma's portside, below the bridge."

There are two ways this can be interpreted:

 1. If Mikuma turned starboard 90 degrees, then Mogami either hit Mikuma on her starboard side or else Mogami had to pass Mikuma and come back to hit her on her port side.

 2. If Mikuma turned port 90 degrees, then to collide, Mogami must have also turned to port but at 45 degrees, resulting in the collision.  Otherwise, if Mogami had turned starboard she would have missed Mikuma totally.

While in the confusion of the moment case 2 is possible, from the information available from this article it would seem that the more likely scenario is that Mogami hit Mikuma on Mikuma's starboard side rather than her port side and the article simply needs to be corrected.

However, if there was miscommunication down the line of the four ships, that information should be expounded upon.

199.209.255.246 (talk) 15:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)eef[reply]

I came to this page to address this very point, and see that the subject has already been brought up, but not answered. The accident as described seems wrong, Could somebody please correct for either direction of turn or side of ship that was rammed or provide more details that might show how the ramming could have actually occurred as described? Tupelo the typo fixer (talk) 15:30, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(Note copied from Mogami article)

This is an unlikely number given the SBD losses of June 4th and suspiciously identical to the number of fatalities. Enterprise fielded 11 SBDs in that particular strike.

"The attack group was led by Lieutenant SHORT, VS-5, and consisted of 31 SBD's from VB-3, VS-5, VB-6, VS-6; 3 TBD's from VT-6 and 12 F4F-4's from VF-6." Source Scouting Six Action Report: http://www.cv6.org/ship/logs/action19420604-vs6.htm

Jp421 (talk) 21:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Japanese cruiser Mikuma. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150401045406/http://www.dutcheastindies.webs.com/sarawak.html to http://www.dutcheastindies.webs.com/sarawak.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 11:27, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Japanese cruiser Mikuma. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20121203032143/http://www.dutcheastindies.webs.com/fall_sumatra.html to http://www.dutcheastindies.webs.com/fall_sumatra.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 10:23, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This page states:

>A Vindicator flown by Capt. Richard E. Fleming attacked after being set ablaze by anti-aircraft fire. His bomb missed and he attempted to ram the bridge of the ship. He missed the bridge but hit the after turret instead. The resulting fire was drawn into the air intakes for the engine room, causing an explosion of gas fumes below which killed all hands in the engine room.[10] .

Richard E. Fleming has his own dedicated Wikipedia page, which states that:

>The following day, June 5, 1942, Capt. Fleming led the second division of his squadron in a mass dive-bombing assault on the Mikuma. Putting his plane into an approach glide, he again dived low and succeeded in scoring a near-miss on the objective. His plane, hit by anti-aircraft fire, caught fire. Unable to pull out of his dive, Capt. Fleming, his plane a mass of flames, crashed into the sea. His gunner, Private first class George Albert Toms, was also killed.[1]

These pages should be reconciled.

Meteoritekid (talk) 19:57, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]