Talk:The Maple Leaf Forever

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In the line "Throught icy fields and frozen bays,", should "throught" be "through"? Or is throught a word with a particular meaning? The word "throught" even occurs at [1]. Graham 06:25, 3 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've been bold and changed "throught" to "through", as that seemed to make the most sense in the context, and nothing has been said here in the last three weeks. Graham 07:40, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Are we sure the lyrics are correct here? Because Cape Race wasn't part of "our fair dominion" until 1949, and the song was supposedly written in the 1860s. Habsfan|t 20:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Cape Race was part of Britain's Domain. The song implies the range of the British empire in Canada.PhatD 15:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That seemed odd to me as well. Newfoundland did not become part of "our fair dominion" until several decades after the author's death. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 20:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PhatD is definitely right about this; if the song meant to reference the extent of Canada at the time, it would have been "From Cape Breton to Fort William" (remembering that Rupert's Land and British Columbia weren't Canadian in 1867). --Nucleusboy 19:03, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It seems odd to me, especially since the lyrics refer to our "Dominion", which in 1867 consisted of Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick.mcgeer (talk • contribs) 01:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have no proof, but I seem to recall that the Cape Race and Nootka Sound was a later addition. It sounds as if it is: "Our fair Dominion now extends...." Sounds like an add on. 192.214.192.58 (talk) 21:23, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I removed a reference to monarchist.ca which doesn't seem to be a very reliable source (it seems to exist only to further a political POV). Also the external links section has two mp3s of the original lyrics but none of the new lyrics, if there's a free recording of the new (CBC) version can someone please add it here? (Link if gratis, upload to Commons if libre!) 91.154.10.99 (talk) 15:17, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The referenced video is only available in the US. As this is a Wikipedia article (international), and about a Canadian cultural piece, this seems highly inappropriate. Is there a more widely viewable source? SteveMcQwark (talk) 19:56, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At present there is a citation needed for the statement that the alternative lyrics are controversial, the old source for that has disappeared and a check through the history shows that the link was dead which is unfortunate as it was as I recall an interesting essay, anyway perhaps this http://www.steynonline.com/content/view/3629/30 could serve as a reference to the controversial nature of the alternative lyrics? It is not really about the Maple Leaf Forever, but in the middle it does negatively refer to it, perhaps we could use it as a source until another editor has the time and inclination to find a better one?

It is so surprising there is no French version of this article....WPF2008 (talk) 16:24, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. I removed large chunks of lyrics at [2] and [3] because I think they were copyright violations. These versions of the lyrics were written in the last few decades, unlike the original lyrics, and I cannot find any evidence that they were released under free licences. If they are ok to include (maybe they were released in the public domain?), please revert.

Otherwise, I think there is still a problem because the old lyrics still appear in the page history. I tried to follow steps at Wikipedia:Copyright problems but it was not clear to me which set of instructions applies. Ilex verticillata (talk) 03:43, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Mr. @Nick Levine, I noticed that you recently reverted another user's edit, which changed the word "Queen" in the lyrics to "King" following the transition of the Crown last year. Conventionally, the lyrics do change to reflect the gender of the reigning monarch (Please see https://hymnary.org/hymn/GTS1921/page/279 and ). We can see that it is a common practice, similar to like God Save the King. Given this information, I do not really feel there is any need for further citations to prove the validity of the change made by the other user.

I appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, and I hope we can spend more time considering this matter. Mosowai (talk) 00:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was just asking for a citation. If words have changed that must be on a website somewhere. Nick Levine (talk) 09:10, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I would say it is more like a conventional thing. Since we now have historical documents proving that there is such a convention and the lyrics have been automatically changed during the previous transitions of Crown, we can reasonably deduce that this time should not be an exception. Mosowai (talk) 11:18, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok Nick Levine (talk) 13:23, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per a likely reliable source over at Canadian Encyclopedia, I have removed an unsourced claim around the first performance of the song. While some newspaper articles out of Newmarket do support the claim, this seems to be in error. Kwkintegrator (talk) 21:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]