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During Tag and Assess 2008 the instructions were given that we were to set the template at "|class=B if and only if an article meets the majority of the B-Class criteria". And again the example tag below "Nearly B-Class: ''{{WikiProject Anime and manga |class=B |B1=n |B2=y |B3=y |B4=y |B5=y |B6=y |importance=Mid}}''". This article clearly is meeting the majority of the B-class criteria (all except one); why are you setting it back down to C? I realize this is a small thing and really doesn't matter, but it really irks me that even after I explained my reasons you still insist on setting it that way when it was explicitly stated otherwise in the Tag and Assess instructions. Why are you doing this? --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 08:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry to have annoyed you. I didn't look at the talk page's history, so I didn't see your explanation. - Those instructions where only for the T&A drive. They allowed for a second pass on borderline B-class articles. Whenever you assess an article like that, it will show up on my todo list. -- Goodraise (talk) 08:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, that make sense. Thanks for clearing that up. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 11:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

(<--) When the tag & assess started, the template showed the checklist if, and only if, |class=B. The idea was, in short, to only complete the chedklist for high C, and B class articles in order to save time. About a week or two after we started, the template was updated to display the checklist for all C class articles as well, and the maintenance category was added. The auto assess is not taken into account by the "Display an assessment of an article's quality as part of the page header for each article-gadget", hence the need to fix it.

(I have since reviewed - as Goodraise said - all of the articles where the auto assess were different from the actual assessment, and completed all of the remaining checklists.)

Regards, G.A.S^talk 18:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

And since then, Start class has also been added to the mix - it all gets rather complicated, and I can't recall the exact details offhand (rather bad, considering I was the one who made the majority of the updates to the B checklist). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{(Dinoguy1000)} 19:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Even worse, since the project templates' indenting seems to be made with STO in mind. :) -- Goodraise (talk) 19:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't say, since much of it is before my time. But I'd be inclined to say it's just a result of different people adding different things at different times, without taking care to preserve and emulate the already-present formatting. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{(Dinoguy1000)} 18:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, it could' have been worse:) G.A.S^talk 05:20, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Gah... code... so... dense... makes my head hurt... @_@ 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{(Dinoguy1000)} 21:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I was told after talking to the members at WP:VN to put them in the character page because they are separate from the main game and do not really fit with the series, but more with character list because they have only 1 character in them from the series. They also commented that it would likely give more notability to the characters list as well.じんない 23:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

It's an editorial question, where to put them. Possible places are the character list's lead, its merchandise section, the main article's related media section, and propably another few places I didn't think of. Can't help you any further than that. - Just so you know: 1-2 sentence paragraphs/sections aren't exactly held in high esteem at FAC/FLC... -- Goodraise (talk) 00:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Yea, but before I would bring this up for an FLC, I want to have it copyedited since my last FLC failed mostly for that reason.じんない 00:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks for taking the time to comment on Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. I am glad you see how important this guideline will be, since it will determine the inclusion or exclusion of television character and television episodes. You maybe interested that it looks like several editors replied to your contributions. Have a wonderful week. Ikip (talk) 04:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

		What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
		The "What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar should be awarded to a user who figures out an elegant solution to a particularly burdensome bottleneck or problem, or who identifies a means to improve Wikipedia in a profound way. This barnstar is awarded to goodraise, for his/her revolutionary ideas proposed on User:Goodraise/Notability (fiction). This proposal will help wikipedia retain valuable contributions and as a result, editors. Thank you. Ikip (talk) 18:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, but I can't accept this barnstar. I did not propose anything (except the removal of excessive wording). I only boiled the current proposal, in the creation of which I had no part, down to a much shorter version. It also seems, that you missread it. I'm sorry to disappoint you. :( -- Goodraise (talk) 18:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Thought you might like to know:)

Thank You

I really appreciate your help, especially on the assessment requests. G.A.S^talk 09:54, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, that's what I call a diff. :) -- Goodraise (talk) 10:44, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Cheers to that (even if I didn't help...)! XD 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{(Dinoguy1000)} 21:43, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

All I was commenting on was that Jinnai's numbered list is botched, and has two number ones in it. If you can just fix it, feel free.—Kww(talk) 04:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

There you go. :) -- Goodraise (talk) 04:40, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your review. Could you please check if I got the serial comma right? I believe that was your last concern. Thanks for your help. MisterBee1966 (talk) 12:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again. I believe you referred to the infobox to the right. I removed the comma before the and to make it consistent with the rest of the article. I noticed that changes to the template may take a while to be visible. However, please be asured that I did make it consitent now. MisterBee1966 (talk) 22:27, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

A television series running on a major television network should be inherently notable, so I removed the tag from Chikkun Takkun WhisperToMe (talk) 01:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

What guideline says so? -- Goodraise (talk) 01:43, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks; I forgot the stupid hash symbol. Deor (talk) 04:10, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

The FLC does not seem to be getting attention. Could you add your comment if you are free? Thanks.Tintor2 (talk) 02:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm a little busy right now, but I'll get to it. -- Goodraise (talk) 08:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

It seems grammar issue was fixed.Tintor2 (talk) 16:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Well I don't know about any real official decision or anything, but it's just that back in 07 the article went through a format change to use a template for each volume and it was rewritten to not include literal translations. Though as far as I know, other manga articles don't use them either and tend to stick with the official version. If there were literal translations, there would be many more than just those and it would probably crowd up the template a bit. The Splendiferous Gegiford (talk) 17:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

My apologizes that this was not successful. I do believe, however, that this list should either have the FLC reopened so that prior reviewers are given a chance to respond (the concerns were addressed, but the FLC was closed before the reviewers could respond to our fixes) or get sent to FLC again in the near future, as it is definitely passable at this stage. If you need any more help with this, or anything else, don't hesitate to ask. NOCTURNENOIR ^{( t • c )} 17:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, well. If you want to speak to Scorpion0422 (talk · contribs) about re-opening it, you'd have my support. But I'll stay away from FLC until I'm back to my normal editing rate. If it's not promoted by then I'll re-nominate it. Anyways, thanks for trying. :) -- Goodraise (talk) 17:57, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I just spoke with him via IRC, and his comment about closing it was that it had already been restarted once and that there were no new comments in the past week. However, he said that he would welcome a renomination at any time, so whenever you're ready, go right ahead. It seems everybody is extremely busy this time of year (although I really can't figure out why), but good luck! NOCTURNENOIR ^{( t • c )} 18:00, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I saw you replaced the episode refs and noted that they did not cite the OP and ED songs. Are you sure of this? Absolutely every single anime I've watched (and I just checked all of the series I have on hand, including Speed Grapher, Spice and Wolf, Fullmetal Alchemist, Darker than Black, and Ah! My Goddess) cites the artist and the song (in the Japanese releases, at least). Of course, I don't have any copies of One Piece, but I'd expect that credit is given there as well so I'm surprised that One Piece does not do the same... ɳOCTURNEɳOIR ^{( t • c )} 22:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

All three theme music sequences are available on streaming websites. There's not a single line (or column) of credits in them. They could have been edited out, but that seems unlikely. -- Goodraise (talk) 22:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll look into it when I get a chance. That really is odd though, and quite unfortunate. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR ^{( t • c )} 23:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Trust me, the originals had full credits. The problem here is that K-F released a file of the 'clean' version of the opening theme from the Japanese dvds (which they use for their fansubs). Youtube is just filled with that exact same file (more of less)Dandy Sephy (talk) 15:01, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, that's good to know. -- Goodraise (talk) 15:56, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

That would explain it, really. The TV releases tend to be the versions I watch (I usually watch them as they come out instead of waiting for the DVD versions). Anyway, I've left more comments for you on my talk page. Cheers! ɳOCTURNEɳOIR ^{( t • c )} 22:25, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello! I'm not here to complain about it being removed; in fact, I do agree with you, and have run across problems using ANN user-contributed information (one list feels very messy because of it...I'm not even sure I have the correct DVD volume release!). However, most GAs, FLs, FAs, and articles soon to be promoted have those references. Should a discussion be started to have a group of people sweep through the GA/FL/FAs to remove those sources? It's much easier to reference the official sites. Also, maybe make more of a notice for others, so that they are also aware of the change? I'm willing to start a discussion, but wouldn't know how to go about notifying others. Of course, it's not exactly necessary to do so, as future GA/FA/FLs are monitored pretty carefully. Thanks! WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 13:14, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I've thought about starting a discussion at WT:ANIME but I decided against it. In my opinion, discussions should be started once there is disagreement. As for the quality articles, I think there is no need do anything. The relevant processes have ways to deal with their own (ever increasing) demands for, well, quality. But if you think the project should be notified beyond what I did, go ahead. -- Goodraise (talk) 13:24, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see. That's fine for me as well, then; I'll make sure to keep them out of articles I am working on, as well as keep an eye on articles being pushed to GA/FL. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 13:41, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Most of the time the info is perfectly reliable (and thats good enough for their news articles when used as sources). I often see it dismissed as "user editable", but this isn't quite correct. Information is user submittable but requires someone on the other end to okay the change (and you are suppossed to provide evidence) - or this was at least true a couple of weeks ago when I tested this. Deciding the information is unreliable is not a small matter, it has project wide ramifications - we are going to find it very hard to get articles promoted if we can't use it, and most of our articles of B+ status will essentially be knowingly using 'unreliable' sources. Dandy Sephy (talk) 14:34, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The ANN section of the MoS was added very recently after extensive discussion regarding what is, and is not, reliable. I'm not sure why you felt the need to remove it without discussion nor any seeming evidence that the view on what is an is not considered reliable on ANN has changed. If you feel some part of that should be adjusted, it should be discussion, not just removed and apparently being quietly dismissed elsewhere. ANN news is fully reliable, and ANN's encyclopedia is reliable within the boundaries established there. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 14:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I make changes and dicuss when someone disagrees. What's wrong with that? And as for "apparently being quietly dismissed elsewhere", I'd really like to know what you think I dismissed? -- Goodraise (talk) 15:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The change was made based on, it seems, on persons disagreement with ANN's use. And I wasn't referring to you specifically on dismissing, but from above, it sounded like somewhere this had been discussed between just the two of you and decided without project discussion. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 15:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The issue seems to have stemmed from this failed FLC , however given the number of FL's we have using the same sort of source, this seems to be a one off. Dandy Sephy (talk) 14:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Agreed...I wish more attention had been called to that FLC so that the one editor who was questioning the ANN and theme could be made to understand that first, theme songs don't even need inline citations, they are sourced to the episodes themselves, and second that ANN is reliable in that instance as a secondary source. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 15:01, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Discussion started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga‎#Citing the ANN encyclopedia. -- Goodraise (talk) 15:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

This is quite surprising, as I've always thought that ANN was reliable; that is why I never raised the issue at FLC. That this is not case is a bit worrisome. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:25, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Just to be clear: This is only about the pages with an URL starting with http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/. All other areas of ANN, with the exception of http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/, are very much reliable. -- Goodraise (talk) 19:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, understood. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I see you have done a lot of rearrangement of the various "List of One Piece" pages, in some cases moving the same page more than once. Two questions: (a) are you done now? (b) are you planning to fix the dozens of redirects that now point to the wrong targets (see [1])? The two questions go together, since there isn't much sense in fixing the double-redirects right away if the targets are just going to change again. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'm done now. Yes, I plan on fixing all those redirects. Don't bother to do it with a bot. Half of them should now point to a page other than the redirect they are pointing to does. - I moved the pages. I moved their contents. I created the redirects. Now it's only fair that I cleanup my mess. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Goodraise (talk) 15:46, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Just to warn you (although you might already realize this), several different users independently operate double-redirect bots and any one of them might start changing these redirects at any time. (Although it looks like you've already done a bunch of them.) --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:36, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning. I think I've fixed all those in need of special attention. If there's any left, they can probably be fixed by a bot. -- Goodraise (talk) 20:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

There is something that I have been wondering that would be awesome to do with some sites. How do you archive the websites? It happens that some of the sites Im citing could be dissappear one of these days. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 23:33, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

http://www.webcitation.org/archive Cheers, -- Goodraise (talk) 23:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.Tintor2 (talk) 00:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Started discussion at Talk:List of Bleach chapters#Splitting. Feel free to comment.Tintor2 (talk) 20:59, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

		The Manga and Anime BarnSakura Award
		I hereby award you the Anime and Manga BarnSakura for your excellent edits in the anime and manga articles, most notably the One Piece articles. Keep up the good work!Tintor2 (talk) 14:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it. :) -- Goodraise (talk) 02:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Kei-clone is a Forum mod on MAL, and the previous COI tag was removed simply because it wasn't discussed or reasons given (at least, just from looking at the summarys). Worth readding it? Dandy Sephy (talk) 22:16, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I just passed by to do a requested assessment. I do not know enough about that website nor am I involved enough in that article to judge whether that editor is able to keep the encyclopedia's interests paramount. However, I noticed that the lead is written like an advertisement and that the reception section is suspiciously positive. -- Goodraise (talk) 22:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

can you check the peer review thing, i've left messages.  Dumbledore  —Preceding undated comment added 19:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC).

I have it watchlisted. No need to notify me. -- Goodraise (talk) 19:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes! I found a website dedicated to this dub! It's great if you want to learn about it. It has cast lists, interviews, clips, and even pics of the video (or VCD) box sets. Here's a link! http://www.freewebs.com/singaporeanonepiece/index.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.206.228.68 (talk) 02:51, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thanks for the reply. Though I was hoping you had found another source of information than that website, because it does not meet Wikipedia's standards for reliable sources. You don't, by any chance, own any of Odex releases? -- Goodraise (talk) 03:09, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Nope. Sorry I don't own any of the VCDs released by Odex. All I have seen of that dub is a few clips (including others besides those posted on that website). But if they ever release them to DVD here in the states, I would most likely buy them. But for now, the Funi dub is fine w/me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.102.78.225 (talk) 20:15, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm in search of episodes of this dub. Do you know how to find them? I'm also trying to find out if Funimation is going to dub more One Piece movies.I thought it was kind of weird that they started with movie eight, though they did do a good job (I felt that Catlin Glass' version of the ending theme on the Blu-Ray was even better than the Japanese version)! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.102.102.244 (talk) 02:41, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Here they are selling the first VCD. For the remaining seven(?), you'll have to search eBay and the likes I fear. Good luck though. (In case you do buy it, tell me. :) -- Goodraise (talk) 04:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll look into it as soon as I get my hands on a VCD player and save up my money (I'm only in my mid-teens at the moment). You don't happen to know where to watch this online do you? P.S. You will love this song from the Funimation dub of One Piece movie 8: (Removed link to copyright violation. -- Goodraise (talk) 12:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)) Please tell me what you think of it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.150.12.207 (talk) 03:42, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry the link doesn't work (I'm bad at typing in web addresses) just go to youtube and search for "One Piece movie 8 ending english" I apologize fo any trouble I may have caused you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.150.12.207 (talk) 03:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the English version of "Compass" is good. I can understand that some like it better than the original. However, please do not post links to copyright violations on my talk page (or anywhere else on Wikipedia). As for a VCD player, don't waste your money. Practically every DVD player can play VCDs as well. -- Goodraise (talk) 12:48, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm glad you like the song. The singer is Catlin Glass, who is the voice of Vivi in the Funimation dub. You can hear the song exclusively on the Blu-Ray version of the movie. And I apologize for the link. I won't be posting links to copyright violations on Wikipedia anymore. But I have a question regarding the fact that VCD Players can play on DVD players. Do you know if they can play in a Region 1 DVD player (Singapore would probably use Region 2)? And what exactly is the difference between a VCD and a DVD? And do you know if Funimation will ever dub more One Piece movies, and did Odex ever dub any? Ciao--99.207.164.153 (talk) 18:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Let me point you to the articles on Video CD and DVD for the first few questions. AFAIK, Funimation has not announced any more movies at this time and Odex only dubbed episodes. -- Goodraise (talk) 18:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I forgot about checking Wikipedia. These pages helped me on that note. I'm also wondering why Odex only dubbed the series. Didn't Toei give them the movies too? And why did they stop production after only 2 seasons? I'm also confused as why Funi started with movie 8 and not the first. It's a shame that Funi has yet to announce any more movies. I don't think Funimation is doing as many movies as they used to because they release a lot of them into theaters in limited release like what they did w/One Piece movie 8 and the Fullmetal Alkamist movie. And do you know if that VCD is being sold in US currency? Thanks again!--99.207.164.153 (talk) 22:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

The store probably uses Singapore dollar. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but if I decide to buy it, how would I pay? I can't pay with Singaporean money if I live in the US. And do you know where I could watch this dub online?--99.207.164.153 (talk) 03:16, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

They won't expect Singaporean dollars if they deliver into the US. As for watching, I'm unaware of Odex releasing One Piece online. -- Goodraise (talk) 09:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay that's good. I just hope if anyone who owns the series will perhaps post them on youtube. How much of this dub have you seen anyway?--99.206.71.177 (talk) 17:09, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I haven't seen a single episode. -- Goodraise (talk) 17:22, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

If you go to that website that I mentioned earlier, you can see a few clips. The best one is the scene where they meet Nico Robin. Perfect casting for her. These clips show off a lot of the character voices. I find it funny that Luffy is played by a guy, and that several names are mispronounced (like Luffy and Sanji). It's not as good as Funimation, but it's ten times better than 4kids.--99.206.71.177 (talk) 18:12, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I added voice actor information for a few more characters regarding the Odex dub in case you noticed. I continued to use that website as a reference, but I think it's reliable because the person(s) who run the site seem to know their stuff. Have you checked out any of the clips? If so, what did you think of them?--99.206.71.177 (talk) 21:52, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I have no intention of watching those clips or the Odex dub. I'm only interested in writing articles. As for the site, it does not meet Wikipedia's guideline for reliable sources. That is why I'm trying to find someone who has Odex' VCDs. Without such an editor, all the information you added will eventually be removed again, because we can't be sure it's accurate. -- Goodraise (talk) 22:10, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm sorry. I thought you were just a fan of One Piece who was curious about the Odex dub like I am. I would buy that box set, but to ship that from Singapore to the U.S. would be worth it's weight in gold. I am going to have to save my money (being that I'm only fourteen at the moment, that might take a while). Are you by chance a fan of the One Piece? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.206.71.177 (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I am, but I really don't see how that matters. Look, there's countless One Piece fansites out there, full of fans who want to chat. I'm really only here to write articles. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:08, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the idea! Though I wish I had friends who cared for what I have to say, that should suit me just fine. Good luck on finding someone who has the VCDs. Maybe I will buy the one you found. How much money do you think I would have to pay in shipping?(Sorry if I'm bothering you with questions)--99.206.71.177 (talk) 23:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

See for yourself. -- Goodraise (talk) 00:13, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Man this sounds complicated!!! I wonder how many they have in stock. I checked ebay and couldn't find any. I wish Odex would sell releases online. Thanks. You have been a big help for me!--68.242.178.221 (talk) 03:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC) OH! I think you guys need to add more characters to the One Piece character page like Alvida, Nojiko, Coby, Bellemere, among others. --68.242.72.111 (talk) 17:23, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

The title of this section was originally: "'that does not belong into the references section'"

Why not fix it, then, rather than removing it? --Raijinili (talk) 14:52, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

For the record: Raijinili is referring to this edit. I didn't say it belonged anywhere else in that article. I just meant to say that if it belonged anywhere, then that place would not be in the references section, because it isn't a reference. Thus, I did fix it, by removing it. Regards, -- Goodraise (talk) 16:28, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Wordplay. I didn't say anything about you talking about the right place. I asked you why you didn't fix it, without referring to a specific instance where you specified a location. "Fix", in my comment, meant "put it in the right place", which I'm sure you knew, and thus I'm sure you intentionally tried to assert superiority of wit by not answering the question. By twisting the meaning by a technicality which wasn't there to begin with, you avoided a direct answer to my question. You haven't stated a reason for not moving the template to a different location in the article, nor have you stated, directly, that the template did not belong.

Answer this, a simple question, with no tricks of manner, language, or distraction: Does it belong in the article? --Raijinili (talk) 17:31, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I do not know.
Look, I answer questions directly if I can. Your first question was based on the opinion that I did not fix it, which is an opinion that I do not share. Removing the template completely (or if you will, placing it outside the article) seemed to be the way to go. Your current question is, again, one that I cannot answer directly, this time, because I do not have the answer. If I knew that it belonged into a certain place in that article, I would have moved it there. Such a place was not obvious to me. - What appeared to you as wordplay was merely my clumsy attempt at answering your question as directly as I could. I assure you that I had not intended to avoid a direct answer or to assert superiority. I apologize for any amount of mental stress my bad English may have caused you. (Mind you that English is not my native language and that preposition stranding does not occur in my native language. In fact, this is the first time that I've heard of it.) Sincerely, -- Goodraise (talk) 18:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I honestly don't know that it belongs either. User:Collectonian removed a portal link and put a deletion template on it for being a duplicate, and that doesn't exactly mean it didn't belong, so I reverted the removal with the right link.

However, I can't see it doing more harm than good (and you didn't seem to either), so I sided on the side of more content. --Raijinili (talk) 20:50, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I think it is sufficient that the portal is linked from every series article in the scope of WP:ANIME (including Dragon Ball), but having an opinion is not "knowing that it doesn't belong". -- Goodraise (talk) 21:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

The portal templates belong in the "see also" section, though there seems to be no policy for what to do without a "see also" section, and it doesn't seem to be sensible to exclude it for what seemed to be the sole reason: that there wasn't a "see also" section. --Raijinili (talk) 20:50, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

You're right, WP:ALSO doesn't say what to do if there is no see also section. -- Goodraise (talk) 21:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I would prefer an "I don't know" when it's appropriate to an avoidance of the question, though. --Raijinili (talk) 20:50, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

IMHO, saying "I don't know" is an avoidance. What I did was answering as directly as possible. I will continue to do so. -- Goodraise (talk) 21:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

The preposition wikilinking was not serious. It had nothing to do with your comments. I didn't even notice if you used stranded prepositions.

I hope this is the resolution. --Raijinili (talk) 20:50, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

You are the one who came to me with a question. How would I know if it has been answered to your satisfaction? In case it has, it was a pleasure to converse with you. :) -- Goodraise (talk) 21:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Would you still like the FLC nomination to be withdrawn and archived, or would you prefer it to be kept open? If the latter, just strike your comment there so no one else does it by accident. Regards, Matthewedwards :  Chat  02:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe the editor you want to ask this is the actual nominator, DragonZero (talk · contribs). -- Goodraise (talk) 02:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Oops! Thanks, Matthewedwards :  Chat  03:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I'll use this same topic to ask for help. I think I finished edits that you have listed, besides the size of the summaries, and would appreciate more tips. Also I pretty sure aga-search.com is reliable, but can you check for me. Thank you. DragonZero (talk) 00:57, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I really can't tell. Try asking at WT:ANIME. -- Goodraise (talk) 01:05, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

One last thing, can you see if you could get the background color for the headers to work on the article? I can't get it to work. DragonZero (talk) 04:03, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. DragonZero (talk) 20:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Goodraise.

I think our edits have overlapped. You nominated:

• Laubegast Niederpoyritz Ferry
• Pillnitz Kleinzschachwitz Ferry
• Johannstadt Neustadt Ferry

on the grounds that appropriate online searches in both English and German did turn up no useful sources.

At the same time I edited the articles to add secondary sources. Unless you have other reservations about these articles that you have not yet written about, I think there is no longer a case to answer. -- Starbois (talk) 17:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Incidentally, if you want to check my book reference, I've just discovered it is in Google book search. -- Starbois (talk) 17:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

It is still my opinion that all three articles fail the GNG. If I did not, I would withdraw the nomination. Regards, -- Goodraise (talk) 17:48, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. Lets see what consensus brings. -- Starbois (talk) 17:57, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Your recent revert [2] at WP:FICT was not supported by any discussion on the talk page. Rather than using the tactic of blanket revert, why not bring your views to WT:FICT so that everyone can understand your position on this issue. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 15:06, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

On May 8, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article List of Dragon Ball Kai episodes, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Royalbroil 03:56, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Note: Title changed. Goodraise 17:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey. You opposed the previous FLC of List of Speed Grapher episodes on the basis that the episode summaries were utterly confusing (a sentiment I agree with). Could you take a look at the first four episodes, which I've attempted to rewrite, and let me know how it looks? If it's still incomprehensible, I'm going to have to rethink this again, but if not, I will rewrite the rest of the summaries following this format. Thanks. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 04:27, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

The summaries are no longer incomprehensible, but there is still room for improvement. Here a few examples:

• In the first summary, you start using the term "Roppongi Club" without introducing it.

• It's introduced in the lead though... ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "Suitengu, who was watching" - What was Suitengu watching?

• Clarified. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "Suitengu ... to order Saiga's death" - I assume that he orders his men to kill Saiga. Considering what kind of supernatural things happen in that anime, it might be good to be specific about this.

• Clarified ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "Saiga is captured, but the girl kisses him before he is executed." - The "but" implies that the girl kissing him does something about him being captured. Is that the case? Also, the sentence implies that he is in fact executed at the end of the episode. Is that what happens?

• Changed the sentence structure a bit; see if this fixes it. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "The girl, Kagura Tennōzu, ..." - This construct is confusing. Grammatically, you're giving the aforementioned girl a name, but intuitively, this reads as if you're introducing a new character, a girl by the name of Kagura Tennōzu.

• Haha, I see what you mean. This should sound better. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "wakes up from a frightening dream of a ritual" - What makes that dream frightening? Perhaps you mean, "wakes up, frightened from a dream about a ritual"?

• Changed to your suggestion, with some tweaks. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "during a piano lesson, Suitengu" - Why is Suitengu present during her piano lesson? Is he giving it?

• Clarified; He's the chauffeur. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "After discovering that he can cause explosions by taking a photo" - Who discovers that?

• The sentence structure would imply "he". Logically, since the only singular "he" from the previous sentence is "Saiga", it must be him. I've changed it anyway though, just to be safe. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "and escapes with Kagura in his arms" - Where did she come from all of a sudden?

• Ehrm... Fixed, maybe... ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "tells Kagura that it is all just a dream"

• Fixed. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "she begs Saiga to show her true freedom" - I don't understand. Are "true freedom" her exact words?

• I haven't seen the English dub, but I will look for that to confirm it. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "Suitengu's right-hand man"

• Ahaha, fixed. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "Both Saiga and Suitengu's men unearth information about the other." - I thought Saiga was shot.

• Not fatally. He's pretty much invincible, apparently. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• "the rubber man" - Is this the same rubber man who killed the politicians?

• That was the intended reference, yes. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Goodraise 07:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments! I'll work on fixing the rest of the episodes. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 13:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)