User talk:Smsarmad/Archives/2012/August

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On 4 August 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article I Protest, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the song "I Protest" by MC Kash became a protest anthem in Jammu and Kashmir during the 2010 unrest? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/I Protest. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 00:03, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

On 5 August 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sabawoon Rehabilitation Center, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Pakistan Army established the Sabawoon Rehabilitation Center for brainwashed militants after a military operation in Swat? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sabawoon Rehabilitation Center. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 16:02, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

[You commented on my talk page and I accept your request]
Please,

1. I guess you know that good indentation makes prolonged discussions easier to read and understand. Yes, it is not necessarily written in chronological order. But my request is that since you're involved in a discussion with multiple editors in that thread it, IMO at least, please try to comment below others' replies and don't disregard (or inadvertently overturn) the current course/progress of the discussion, unless of course you genuinely think it's important for the betterment of Wikipedia or feel otherwise.
2. Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a derogatory conclusion that is not explicitly stated by any of the sources. (See WP:SYNTH.)

P.S. you're not obliged to pay heed to my humble requests at all. But, seeing how we must work as a community here and Wikipedia is a collaborative process and there is no room for battleground mentality, I think it would be better if you didn't ignore my suggestions. Mrt3366 ^(Talk?) 09:12, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

And I humbly request you not to make soup at that talk page. About synthesis, are those sources that I have given on the talkpage present in the article? Those sources were added after an editor raised a particular concern. About derogatory conclusion, that is your POV. Reliable sources state that a country provided military training, arms, ammunition, drugs to a militant organization and I have stated that without any conclusion, because that thing itself is so obvious that it doesn't need to be concluded. --SMS ^Talk 09:25, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

"Reliable sources" - Sources —Plural? and —Reliable? [Chuckling]

I again suggest you read the arguments in the talk of the article. I will leave your talk page and I don't wish to come back (removed it from my watchlist). Thank you.

P.S. If you want to talk with me about something other than the discussions we are having elsewhere, come to my talk page and we can take it from there. Mrt3366 ^(Talk?) 09:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes reliable sources, and I request you not to judge anything on your liking. Anyway thanks for de-watchlisting this page. --SMS ^Talk 09:49, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

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Can you have a look and help out mate? TheSpecialUser ^TSU 08:30, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Do you have an undisclosed alternate account? Darkness Shines (talk) 22:39, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

And the answer is....? Facts, not fiction (talk) 21:04, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Looks like he doesn't want to answer. It is not compulsory to reveal all accounts or even that one has them since some times the purpose of having the alternate account would be void by revealing that... just saving you some time (if that is the case). --lTopGunl (talk) 21:09, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

If he choose not to then I will have to take it further. His choice really. Facts, not fiction (talk) 21:16, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

How did you come to the Haqqani Network article to revert me? [1] I am curious as this is your first ever edit to this article. Facts, not fiction (talk) 21:09, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to Frontier Force Regiment. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Also please check this. Mrt3366 ^(Talk?) 19:02, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Have you even looked at my edit which you reverted? I admire your skill of reverting with eyes closed but that is not what we are here for, we always need to careful while reverting any other editor's edit. I hope you will revert your reversion of my edit yourself and will be careful in future. --SMS ^Talk 02:48, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in multiple edit wars. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Mrt3366 ^{(Talk page?) (start talk?)} 09:40, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Well done! you are learning the use of twinkle too fast, I appreciate it. Feel free to drop more warnings on my userpage. Happy templating, baiting and gaming the system! --SMS ^Talk 02:53, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

[2] There is an obvious consensus this is not a reliable source, please stop edit warring it into articles. Facts, not fiction (talk) 12:31, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I am not adding it as a source if you have cared to look at it. I have only added it as an external link where it provides some useful information, which is allowed per WP:ELMAYBE. And your argument about this being WP:ELNO is totally vague as it is not a blog, personal web page nor fansite, so kindly revert your reversion of my edits. --SMS ^Talk 02:45, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

@SMS You have reverted all my edits from my contribution history . Please Self revert yourself now--DBigXray 12:39, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

If you actually read WP:ELNO it says the following.

Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject, one should generally avoid: #2 Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a featured article. Any site that misleads the reader by use of factually inaccurate material or unverifiable research, except to a limited extent in articles about the viewpoints that the site is presenting.- #2 WP:ELNO

Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject, one should generally avoid: #11 Links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority - #11 WP:ELNO

You are very well aware that pakdef.info is unreliable self published source that misleads using factually incorrect information and yet you fail to WP:HEAR, any further attempts to edit war it back will be seen as disruptive editing, cheers --DBigXray 07:09, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Highlighting your favorite part of the sentence won't do it for you, read the complete sentence without any prejudice/bias. --SMS ^Talk 08:35, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

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