User talk:Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist

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Luckily, no one has it yet. I think you could (and ought to) establish that account as a WP:VALIDSOCK to prevent a Doppelganger account situation, either with bad or clueless intent. There's no reason you shouldn't have it, and clear reasons you should. If it were me, I would create it and then immediately redirect the user page and Talk page to this account. I believe per VALIDSOCK you are supposed to mention it briefly on your user page somewhere, and then you are good. Good luck, Mathglot (talk) 22:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you got there first. On a side note: I just found your Works page (nice bunch of articles!) and followed a few links just to see what I would learn. One of the pages (I forget which) then led me to Abby Stein, and what an interesting story she is! Would make an interesting topic for expansion for you, although at 93k and 184 refs, maybe it's already as mature as it needs to be. Anyway, an interesting read. I should do something like your Works page; I sometimes forget that I've worked on something, and meant to get back to it. I'll add that to my To-do list, which, since it already has aleph null items on it, won't get any longer by adding it. Mathglot (talk) 02:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'd been meaning to split it from my main user page for a while. Updating it the other day reminded me I spent a few hours collating sources on WPATH a month or so ago and drafted a section that dissappeared due to a computer crash - gotta try and track them down again.

And absolutely, I hadn't recognized her until reading the article but when I did I realized we've been in each others peripheries for a while, 1) I think I've seen her speak at one or two marches before, 2) I've got a lot of friends who've been with Congregation Kolot Chayeinu, and 3) I've seen her story a few times before. Small world! I often joke: I'm not saying all trans people in NYC know each other, but I'm not not saying it.

I wish you all the best in creating one and would love to see it! Though I reckon at ~82k edits figuring out all the main ones will be a tall order lol. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 18:12, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I just noticed the link on your userpage in the sidebar to your top edited pages is broken - should be this to work. Happy editing. Raladic (talk) 23:38, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there, just wanted to check if removal of those was just an accident before I add them back in if that was an edit conflict accident or intentional :) Raladic (talk) 21:13, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Raladic, yep, sorry about that lol. Just added them back in! Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 21:16, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I figured that was probably it, happy editing :) Raladic (talk) 21:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist. Thank you for your work on Evaluation of Transsexual Surgery. Another editor, Mason7512, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Suggestion: expand legacy section to include modern understanding of content covered in report/debunking/reasoning behind the evolution of policy in 2014 (to prevent confusion on current status of report and inform)

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Mason7512 (talk) 01:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Colin. Thank you.

Figured I'd notify you since like half the diffs involve you. Snokalok (talk) 22:53, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello YFNS, I just came across the article above [1]. I believe that, in light of the advice you have received from HaeB and Svampesky at Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Submissions [2], as well as the earlier review by JPxG [3], and your editing restriction (0RR on articles for organizations/activists who are affiliated with anti-transgender activism or gender-critical feminism, broadly construed), I would urge you to withdraw the article from consideration (and publish off-wiki if you wish). starship.paint (RUN) 14:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Starship.paint Already did a while ago, I was getting mixed messages from different editorial board members about whether it would never be published or just needed more revisions and ended up giving up a few weeks ago. I think it's odd that somebody famous for misinformation about trans people edited about trans people for a decade and it's not more common knowledge. I've been looking for an alternative publisher, though I've been a bit too busy with work lately to look as hard as I'd like.

@Smallbones I asked a while ago if you had any ideas for alternative publishers, just pinging to see if you could offer any advice on that. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 14:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay YFNS, if you have withdrawn it, then perhaps User:Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist/sandbox/Draft:Disinformation report could be moved to somewhere in your sandbox. As currently it still seems to be up for review at Newsroom/Submissions. starship.paint (RUN) 15:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FrieNeighSo: Out of curiosity, I looked at the article discussed above, rabbit-holed a bit, and it took me a long while to unravel all that had happened regarding a Margaret Nichols article since. I'm glad to see that the shenanigans had already been detected and are in the midst of being dealt with.

Having said that, the psychologist is currently listed at the disambiguation page Margaret Nichols, but as a link to Blanchard's transsexualism typology... where she is not mentioned at all, so not a proper disambiguation.

I don't know much/anything on these specific topics, so I'll leave it up to you whether the correct way of addressing this is to delete her (for now, until her article is revived) or to add her in some form to that typology article. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 15:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@NatGertler thanks for reminding me about that! I was able to get the article undeleted/moved to Draft:Margaret Nichols (psychologist) and forgot to finish updating it. I don't have much experience writing about academics so fixing up the article's a different style than I'm used to - I'll ask for help at WP:WPWIR getting it fixed up again! I don't think she belongs in the typology article as she wasn't one of the more influential critics of the typology. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 15:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect User:Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist/sandbox/Draft:Disinformation report has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 23 § User:Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist/sandbox/Draft:Disinformation report until a consensus is reached. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 02:12, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you familiar with any studies/articles that connect the theory with the econ concept of an inferior good? The topics feel quite related. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 01:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Red-tailed hawk Sadly not, it's been a while since I did an exhaustive search for sources for the article but I never saw the link made, and I didn't find one quickly looking for it now. I'll try and double back in the next few days and if I can't find anything more concretely tying it I'll make it a see also link! Best, Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 21:23, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, YFNS. Noticed you archived a bunch of stuff recently (it needed it). A couple of things ended up in Archive 5, including § History/rights table and § Rebuilding the Tower of Babel, which included discussions about the rights tables (e.g. Trans articles by region2) as built by some of your templates like {{Regional articles}}, {{Article info}}, and {{For loop delimited}}. Not sure where you stand on integrating a table like the one we were discussing into the WikiProject, but I still hope to see it come to fruition. I think we also mentioned possibly platformifying it, so it could be used more generally by other projects. First step before we get to the latter, though, would be just doing the one you originally envisioned as T rights per country, and placing that somewhere at the WikiProject. I think we were very close, or maybe already there?

On a completely different note, but just since you like templating stuff, I've been working lately on {{Section length}} (with a lot of support from Trappist), and on the experimental page-views graph replacement template {{Xviews}} and its talk page cousin, {{Xreadership}}:

Daily pageviews of User talk:Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist Pageviews summary: size=91, age=41, days=60, min=0, max=144, latest=15. The pageviews file file is stale; please update it; see § Instructions.

You can see it in use at Talk:War guilt question, Talk:Woman, Talk:World War II, or any of these. If you have any bot-writing skills, I need a bot to help automate the data retrieval part. Mathglot (talk) 22:37, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mathglot, thanks for reaching out! I was going to start another threat linking them all and am glad you beat me to it lol.

I'd still like to get the table up and running and haven't had the time to fix it - the issue with it was it contained too many features and exceeded the function call limit when the tables weren't really small. I'm thinking that the languages were what tripped it up, which is a shame because the crosswiki referencing was one of the most important features to my mind. I'll block out some time for it next weekend to try and get it working!

The new templates are really cool! My only note would be Section length should have a wordcount flag. I think I've seen it in the wild in a few places but can't remember where lol. Alas, I've no experience with Wikipedia bots though I wish I did. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 18:31, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Word count is a pet peeve of mine, and the source of endless disputes at WP:Article size. Existing tools are massively off (I'll link an old discussion somewhere if I can find it, where our 3rd longest article, something like 720kb raw, came in at 45 words per the tool). Anyway, I have been thinking about a replacement for word count and we can easily beat the existing tool by light-years without being perfect; it is doable as a template, although a module would be better. As a first approximation: strip templates and html comments, convert contiguous blanks to one blank, return the count the blanks.

As to WP:Template limits, I assume you are familiar with WP:PEIS. This is very likely the limit you are running into, and it could be that long tables would have to be chunked and collapsed. Iirc, only the expanded ones contribute to PEIS, so if you collapse them all, and leave instructions in the doc to only expand one at a time, I think that works. (Otherwise, place on separate subpages and link them with indexing letters, A-D, E-H, etc., or maybe by continent?) The {{Xviews}} template addresses template limits directly for the same reason, and explains how to fine-tune the parameters to avoid exceeding it. Mathglot (talk) 19:12, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe word count is better now. Just noticed WT:Prosesize#Now uses prosesize toolforge tool for word counts but haven't tested it. Mathglot (talk) 19:23, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you are going to notify projects[4] you should also notify editors involved with the prior discussions. Please do to avoid any appearance of canvasing. Springee (talk) 23:18, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have notified the other 3 people that were part of the prior conversation that were not already involved in this new one.

I don't think canvassing was intended on YFNS's part and she simply notified the relevant WikiProject covering the topic. But in any case, as I mentioned, I now took care of notifying the other 3 are aware of it if they would like to participate in the new conversation. Raladic (talk) 23:44, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Fwiw, I'd pinged the relevant editors with this comment lol[5] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 23:52, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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