Talk:57th Street station (IND Sixth Avenue Line)

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Reviewer: StudiesWorld (talk · contribs) 00:19, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   "When the north side of the Manhattan Bridge was closed for construction from 1986-1998 and again from July to December 2001, this station was only served by a shuttle train along Sixth Avenue." Would it be possible to add some more information about the shuttle train, such as the termini? Done
   "The contract was put back for a vote in February, where it was ultimately approved." Did the same company that was proposed receive it? Done

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

   I have concerns about the citations to The Subway Nut. Some of them seem indicative of original research by interpreting the contents of the images. However, generally, I also think that it would be a self-published source. I have plagiarism concerns against two passages:
   "A plaque dedicated to retired Colonel John T. O'Neill, who served as the New York City Transit Authority's Chief Engineer until his death in 1978, sits next to the booth on the west wall." I believe that this was plagiarised from [1]. Reviewing the history, both have the same error for years before it was corrected on Wikipedia.  Done
   "Prior to the 2018 renovation of the station, much of the station design was unchanged from its 1968 opening. The "Next Train" indicator lights were still hanging from the platform ceiling, dating from the period when the station was a terminal two decades prior. The tower and the crew area still exist. They were used until the 63rd Street extension opened to 21st Street–Queensbridge in 1989, but were back in service in 1998 when trains from Sixth Avenue terminated here due to long term construction work that necessitated a shuttle train from Queensbridge to 57th Street–Seventh Avenueon the BMT Broadway Line. Once all construction work was completed on the 63rd Street Connector to the IND Queens Boulevard Line in December 2001, the tower was permanently abandoned." This also closely follows the structure and phrasing of [2].  Done

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   As far as I can tell, all periods are adequately and appropriately covered.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   Nothing appears controversial or non-neutral point of view.

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   Article history looks stable.

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   All the images look reasonably good. However, the two street entrance images look like they are of different entrances. I think it would be ideal if it was the same entrance for both. Would it be possible to fix this?

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Overall, I think that this is a good article. I would like a discussion about the concerns at #2, but everything else I would be willing to give this a check without, as matters of taste All problems have been addressed.

@StudiesWorld: Thanks for the feedback. I addressed the two prose concerns you had. I deleted some content solely cited to the Subway Nut website, as well as the content copied from Station Reporter. I think the image citations from the Subway Nut should be fine for citing actual observations, though; these are present in other Good Articles like Flatbush Avenue–Brooklyn College (IRT Nostrand Avenue Line). Finally, it's very hard to find two of the same entrance, but I found it (just from different angles) epicgenius (talk) 16:09, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! M trains are currently only using the downtown track at 57th Street to terminate. The uptown track is currently blocked with a blue wall. The layout has M trains using both tracks to terminate when they're only using one track. 2603:7000:D0F0:89A0:B15E:6994:7760:906 (talk) 12:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]