Talk:United States military bands

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The link in this article is to Keith Clark, a Professor of Computer Science at Imperial College London. Keith Clark, the bugler at JFK's funeral, passed away on January 10, 2002 at the age of 74 and is buried in Arlington.Steve Lothrop 11 Sept 2007

Sorry, but it is NOT true that all but one band is in the Washington, DC area. indeed, the bands of the National Guard are in their home States, while the various Divisional bands are with the divisions they belong to. When I have the time I will create a list for you. SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 21:16, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you reread carefully, it states that all but one PREMIER band are in the Washington, DC area.68.48.123.24 20:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but I would be careful with the use of the word 'premier when describing specific bands. ALL of them train to the same standards, and ALL of them get the same relative exposure. While it is true that the top tier bands are better known for a lot of reasons, none of them use the word premier exclusively for their service. - SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 15:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A current listing of the locations of all Active Duty Army, Army Reserve, and Army National Guard bands is available publicly at bands.army.mil. This is the official public website for the Army Bands program and as such contains the most accurate and current information on bands and their locations, missions, and organization. As for the premier issue, some of the bands (the Army calls them Special Bands) do use the word premier in their own descriptions and publicity materials. Additionally, all military band personnel do not receive the same training or get held to the same standards. While it is true that most Active Army, Army Reserve, and Army National Guard bandspersons are auditioned and trained using the same standards at the Armed Forces School of Music (along with Navy and Marine bandspersons), the musicians in the Army Special Bands (the Army Band, the Field Band, and the United States Military Academy Band)and the Air Force bands do not follow the same audition procedures or attend the School of Music. Personnel in these bands are auditioned directly by the bands themselves for a specific opening. After completion of basic training, the musicians are sent directly to these bands with no further musical training. Most winners of Army Special Bands auditions hold advanced degrees in instrumental performance or music education and consequently are considered by the Army to be fully trained. SFC David Bullman, US Army Field BandBullmand 02:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are 10 premiere bands in the U.S. Military: The United States Army Band, The United States Army Field Band, The United States Army Fife and Bugle Corps, The Unites States Military Academy Band, The United States Marine Band, The United States Navy Band, The United States Naval Academy Band, The United States Air Force Band, The United States Air Force Academy Band and The United States Coast Guard Band. The Marine Corps Drum and Bugle Corps is not a premier band. The Navy and Air Force call their top bands "premier bands," and the Army calls them "special bands."98.233.5.247 (talk) 01:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Update: There is one fewer premiere band in the U.S. Military. By order of Gen. Norton Schwartz, CSAF, the USAF Academy Band is no longer a premiere band. It is now an AF "regional" band, which is the tier of AF bands below "premiere". This leaves only the USAF Band at Bolling AFB as the sole premiere band in the USAF. This change was officially announced on 1 Apr 2010 and fully implemented approximately 1 year later. Bandsmen stationed at the USAF Academy Band are now subject to regular PCS'ing and no longer receive advanced promotion to E-6 upon arrival from basic training. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.112.141.19 (talk) 08:13, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All the different bands should have their own articles. This page is too long.--Jiang 01:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Many people confuse the bands, particularly the Army Band and the Army Field Band. Although splitting the article for each band is a good idea, there should still be one central article which delineates the premier bands to avoid confusion between them. 13 May 200768.48.123.24 20:02, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. One central article to focus the reader, with separate Main Articles to handle the details. - SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 15:53, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It would probably make sense to split this into articles for each branch of service and then go into details from there. There are enough differences between the missions and organization of the bands in the various branches that it would be easier to catalog them that way.Bullmand 02:36, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have to disagree with this last point, but I still feel that a split is an excellent idea. I am loathe to perform it myself, however, knowing just about nothing about any band besides the USMC ones that already have thier own articles. bahamut0013♠♣ 00:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this article should be split to cover band specifics while retaining the central article for general information about all the bands. At any rate, the current version is a mess, with some bands but not others getting their own infobox. The table of contents is all balled up, occurring as it does in the middle of the US Army Band section. Binksternet (talk) 14:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, who's the author? If someone did a bunch of revisions, would someone else come along and revert them all? Virgil H. Soule (talk) 20:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi; hoping someone here might have some info on Spanish-American War-era bands; my grandfather Endre Johannes Cleven was in, according to family files and an old news clipping from his obit, "the US Army Musical Corps" but that's pretty unspecific; he was with the 203rd New York Volunteers so maybe it was a unit band? Should I just redirect US Army Musical Corps here or leave it as a redlink until something better/more accurate as a link comes along?Skookum1 (talk) 15:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is incomplete and disorganized and looks like a work in progress. Has someone been designated as a lead author or is working on it? Virgil H. Soule (talk) 17:21, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps contributor 72.81.215.211 would like to create a new article, e.g., "U.S. Army bands". One of his/her edit summaries said: "There is no undue emphasis given to the Army by including the Field Band. The Marines and USCG only have 1 premier band each; the AF and Navy each have 2. The Army happens to have 4." Eagle4000 (talk) 01:00, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking that editor's addition could be worked into the United States Army Band article, as the United States Army Field Band seems to me to be connected. At any rate, yes, there should be a venue on Wikipedia for that information. I've been resistant to putting it here, but I would be fully supportive of it going into its own page or folded into the other Army band page. Binksternet (talk) 01:55, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's one option (incorporating the Field Band into the United States Army Band article. Another option would be to create a new article (e.g., "U.S. Army bands"). This is how the other Navy bands are treated, at Navy Music Program (referred to at US Navy navbox as "Fleet bands"), which includes a section on the United States Navy Band. Eagle4000 (talk) 00:56, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't there be an 'external links' section at the end? I'm retired from the USMA Band and know they have their own web site. DaveHorne (talk) 16:33, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

With the exception of barely one paragraph, this article is entirely focused on the few so-called "premier" military bands and their special practices. In fact, the United States has scores of military bands across the U.S., including Hawaii, and in Asia and Europe.

This article should either be renamed to describe its content--"Special U.S. Military Bands"--or massively rewritten to include the vast number of organizations implied by the title. Fmullen (talk) 02:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This article was a mess. I've just started redoing it from scratch. There's a lot that still needs to be done in terms of copyediting, insertion of refs, etc. LavaBaron (talk) 04:19, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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