Template talk:Extinct

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Should this use {{Nobold}} also? thanks, ErikHaugen (talk) 23:25, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. I'll go ahead and add that. Thanks for the keen observation! Bob the Wikipedian ^{(talk • contribs)} 03:43, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

oh; thanks. looks good.ErikHaugen (talk) 03:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The dagger seems to be breaking the italic title - see Sanajeh for an example - the italictitle is necessary for some reason. ErikHaugen (talk) 04:42, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be resolved...sorry I missed this topic! Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 02:13, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, at some point in the last 10 months this got resolved :) ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 03:57, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion which would affect this template's use: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Icons#Dagger_.28typography.29 ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 23:15, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• See also new discussion here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tree_of_Life#Extinction_daggers_in_taxoboxes FunkMonk (talk) 09:18, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add a span title of the word "Extinct" to the template. This will allow viewers of the dagger symbol produced by the template to place the cursor over the symbol and view what it means, as various other templates do for visual aid (such as {{IPA}}).

It should be added (as the bold text shown below) in the following manner:

<span title="Extinct">{{noitalic|{{nobold|†}}}}</span>

This displays the dagger below, which provides useful information about its meaning in taxonomy:

†

The following is an example of how this would appear on a list within a taxobox:

• Clade Australosphenida
  • †Order Ausktribosphenida
  • Order Monotremata
• †Order Eutriconodonta
• †Order Gobiconodonta
• †Order Multituberculata
• Clade Trechnotheria
  • Subclass Theria
    • Infraclass Marsupialia
    • Infraclass Placentalia

Thank you! — |J~Pæst|  04:43, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done I also added a little more documentation. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:15, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just FYI, this has no effect in Chrome/Chromium, as of this writing, so don't depend on it.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  05:56, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It may be helpful to create a See also link to the similar Template:Dagger. Usage would probably become one subheading, and See also, another. JKDw (talk) 09:00, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Use of Unicode dagger symbol for extinct taxa (thread on usage and styling of the dagger).  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  05:57, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know enough coding to implement this, but how do you all think about adding a parameter like

|link=y

so that the dagger could link to Extinction on an opt-in basis? --Nessie (talk) 18:19, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This should be the default, because readers cannot be expected to know what the dagger means. I also don't think there needs to be an opt-out option; if a user wishes to do so they could use the plain dagger symbol without using the template. Just adding the link would be an easy thing to do. This has also just been discussed at Talk:Tyrannosaurus#†. Can we get a consensus here to implement it? --Jens Lallensack (talk) 15:13, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support a link to Extinction that is at least the default if not universal. --Kent G. Budge (talk) 16:00, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support - the daggger makes it easier to distinguish extinct and non-extinct creatures, and adding a link to it will make it clearer what's its meaning. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 16:29, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support - It makes for clarity. How-ever, is there any other know use of the dagger that needs to be excluded? If so, can this be easily handled, if not then maybe it should not be optional? Kdammers (talk) 02:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it has any other uses; because the template is called "Extinct"; it should only be used to mark extinct taxa. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 08:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Template:Ext and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 26#Template:Ext until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:52, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What's the point of text-decoration: none? If we remove that, then there's a little dotted line under, indicating you can hover over it to see a tooltip. Wouldn't that be better? Rendered like this: † — W.andrea (talk) 21:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]