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This bot (Addbot) removed an {{about}} template from Espelandsfossen (Odda) with this edit: [1], presumably unintentionally. Osarius - Want a chat? 12:53, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

This bug has been fixed. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 21:51, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Would you consider to run your bot on Ukrainian Wikipedia for removing interwiki links? The approval page is here. Thanks in advance. --DixonD (talk) 10:19, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

I have added a request to the page ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 21:54, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

The bot flag is granted. --DixonD (talk) 07:37, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Please, use the following summary: [[Користувач:Addbot|Бот:]] Переміщення $counter інтервікі, відтепер доступних на [[Вікіпедія:Вікідані|Вікіданих]] у [[d:$id]] --DixonD (talk) 07:35, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

In cbk-zam Wikipedia created pages of all municipalities from Spain, France, etc, a month ago. But after they deleted interwikis, and now the cbk-zam interwikis are in all pages of all Wikipedias (English, Spanish, ...), like O Rosal. So, please remove the cbk-zam interwikis. --Vivaelcelta {discussion  · contributions} 14:14, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Could you provide me with an example? ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 23:48, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

For example A Guarda, cbk-zam:A Guarda. --Vivaelcelta {discussion  · contributions} 01:39, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

The project is still active so I cant really go and delete all cbk-zam interwiki links. These will however be removed in the next stage or by another bot! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:47, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

The English-language article Disco (TV series)‎ describes a TV series and has a list of its programmes; in German, there are different articles for the TV series de:Disco (Fernsehsendung) and its list of programmes de:Liste der disco-Sendungen. The English-language article includes both of the Greman-language articles in its list of interwiki links.

After this edit by Addbot http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Disco_%28TV_series%29&curid=9902273&diff=544716531&oldid=542374873 only one of the German articles was listed as an interwiki link.

Is the problem handling an article with two interwiki links for the same language in Addbot or in Wikidata? Can it be solved easily? Peter Loader (talk) 21:28, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata cannot handle more then one link per language for each item. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 00:01, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Hence one has to be left :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:44, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

		The Admin's Barnstar
		...because I see the huge work you are doing moving interwiki links to Wikidata with Addbot. Daniele.tampieri (talk) 05:50, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Cheers! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:45, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi there,

I notice that you recently contributed to the TRS-80 article and wondered if you were interested in adding your opinion to the discussion on the proposed article split. If you have no strong opinion either way, or don't wish to contribute, please feel free to ignore this message. Thank you for your time. Ubcule (talk) 16:08, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

When anyone moves an article with interwiki links previously removed by this bot, the links do not appear automatically in the moved article, so a user should do something like this. Not everyone will notice disappearance of interwiki links during the move, so a lot of damage can be done. Unless this bot can automatically move interwiki links to moved article, it should be stopped. My very best wishes (talk) 22:00, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Looks like a bot is taking care of this, see [4] Christian75 (talk) 22:28, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, it now includes interwiki. One should simply wait. Sorry. Thanks, My very best wishes (talk) 05:46, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, when Addbot removes all the H:ILLs from a template and leaves an empty <noinclude></noinclude> as it did here, would it be possible to remove that <noinclude></noinclude> as well? Thanks. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:46, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Currently discussing at my meta page. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:00, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Addbot was granted a botflag in de:WP. Would be great if you could help there as well. Thx. -- 109.48.77.136 (talk) 15:52, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Please see sections on my meta talk page, trying to add a feature before the run starts. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:01, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Would you be willing to give Peachy a try for your bots? I'm looking for a few PHP botops to test run the alpha version.—cyberpower ^Chat_Offline 23:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

I would love to but not quite yet, I should have more time in about 3 weeks! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:03, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

I can't figure it out. What, with these changes to the framework, is causing my bots to crash and not want to start?—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 19:28, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

I found it.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 12:53, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I couldnt help and you beat me to it :P ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 11:39, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Like I said, I'm extremely busy working on the framework. I hope to release it into public domain once it's done. I'm going to call it Peachy 2. Minimum mw version required is 1.21 (current version).—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 00:40, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I would probably end up using it if it worked well ;p ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 21:52, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

• I don't have much time to do it myself today so could you help me debug this The code changes made to the script stopped every task of my bot.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 11:35, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

  And I found it again.—cyberpower ^Chat_Offline 04:23, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Really sorry I cant be of my help currently :/ I barely have time to respond to my talk page messages on en and meta :/ ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:48, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

:p—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 02:36, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

I made this huge change and I'm having difficulty isolating the bug this time. I've been looking at it for hours. Could you help me out again? :p The change is supposed to add support for chunked uploads where the end-user gives the framework an array of file locations that are chunked files and the framework uploads chunks to be pieced together into one file.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 02:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Plenty of logic and syntax bugs in that one, but I squashed them all. I'll stop annoying you now. :p—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 14:32, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

HAH! no, it is noce to see how peachy is going :D ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 13:00, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

This bot has moved the link Saturation (telecommunications) to wikitionary (or whatever the thing is). However, your bot has failed to fix all of the links found here. I tried to edit them as an anonymous user, but then I get blamed for spamming wikipedia. Please look at having the bot fix all the links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.94.244.179 (talk) 21:48, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Could you please elaborate on what the exact problem is? The only edits made to that article by Addbot was interwiki link migration to Wikidata which from my understanding is irrelevant to your point. John F. Lewis (talk) 00:56, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Before the bot's changes, there were many referring pages that linked to Saturation (telecommunications). After the bot's changes, they do not link directly to the Wikidata, but instead are at the Wikipedia stub. Couldn't the bot have updated all of the referring **linked** pages when/before the migration to Wikidata happens? Now every place where someone was referring to *Saturation (Communications)* as a concept they didn't want to explain in-line must go and fix the links to point directly to the migrated location. 216.94.244.179 (talk) 17:31, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

There aren't so many pages now as I have changed many of them. The additional problem is that anonymous user's are then flagged as spamming when a direct link to WikiData is used. Maybe there is a better way to link to WikiData than externally. Something like,

[[Wikidata:Saturation_(telecommunications)]] 

I didn't find that hint either. If you don't update the links, the Wikipedia stub should have a hint on how to link directly. Sorry, if I sounded short. I hope you can see how the behavior is annoying. 216.94.244.179 (talk) 17:35, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

I have now made direct links to Wikidata from Operational transconductance amplifier, Fully differential amplifier, Emphasis (telecommunications), Busy hour and Operational amplifier because I didn't know the Wikidata tagging syntax. 216.94.244.179 (talk) 17:46, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry it has taken me such a long time to reply, to link to wikidata you have to link to the data entry number , eg. d:445 or d:789 but as far as I know you can not link via an article name. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 13:03, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) d:Special:ItemByTitle/enwiki/Saturation (telecommunications) --Redrose64 (talk) 13:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

This is working : Transwiki:Saturation (telecommunications) However, I don't know if I can change the text or if I would be flagged as an external linker when I am anonymous. At least I am not flagged on your talk page. 216.94.244.179 (talk) 15:14, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

See above.. [[d:Special:ItemByTitle/enwiki/Saturation (telecommunications)]] ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 15:29, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Addbot did not remove the Simple English link from Mélodie in this edit, presumably because it was written with a lower-case M rather than a capital letter (see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)#Lower case first letter). Capitalisation of the first letter makes a difference in Wiktionary, but not in Wikipedia. Graham87 02:31, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Good day Graham, I believe (without looking to the code) that this is due to the lowercase on Wikipedia but capitalisation on Wikidata. It may be a nice idea to introduce a check and also remove if capitulation is not a match. Though Addshore may provide a better answer to you. John F. Lewis (talk) 08:13, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Good catch! I will try and add this to the bot! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 23:48, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

This should now be fixed. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 12:53, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Is this edit as intended? - 82.153.117.140 (talk) 18:15, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Yes. Interwiki links are becoming obsolete and Addbot is removing them. —cyberpower ^Chat_Online 21:51, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

There were two links, but it removed only one of them. One link remains. - 82.153.120.5 (talk) 15:18, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

As it is not on d:Q12133 as it links to a section and should remain in the article. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 15:28, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Addbot (talk · contribs) seems to have a bug. Check its edit to the article No Motherland Without You. The bot doesn't understand that nan: is the same as zh-min-nan:, so it kept that interwiki link. Your bot might need a list of duplicate interwiki prefixes, such as nan:/zh-min-nan: and nb:/no:. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:44, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

nb/no was fixed recently. I will add the same fix for nan:/zh-min-nan: ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:02, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

This should be fixed from now ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 12:55, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello, this is Emily. I would like to edit the article for Vivian Hsu. For the new content that I plan to add to this article are the advertising works of Vivian Hsu and some of the lyrics that she wrote for other singers. Do you have any suggestions about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emily88zhang (talk • contribs) 18:48, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

I have replied on your talk page. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 12:57, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Hallo. I saw this [5], there is two wikilinks to de. The one on wikidata is removed, but the remaining is now the one used at enwiki... Christian75 (talk) 21:35, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Hmmmm... this is interesting and I am looking into it! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 12:59, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I have some doubts about the objectivity of the All the Fools Sailed Away article. As you seem to be the last person to have edited that page, you might want to check it over. Thanks. NHCLS (talk) 01:40, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

If I go to the english "Ionocraft" voice, there is no link to the italian version of that page (Lifter), but if i try to add it... Wikidata shows me that the italian link is already there.

I'm a talk page stalker, not Addshore, but I fixed the problem by purging the page cache on Ionocraft. --j⚛e decker^talk 06:10, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It's not necessarily a WP:BYPASS issue; often, a WP:PURGE will suffice. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:38, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I misspoke, you are correct. --j⚛e decker^talk 04:46, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Could I have 2 mins of your time? As I’ll be working on some other projects for Wikimedia Germany as well from now on the time I can spend on Wikidata will be reduced. This means I’ll have to figure out what is useful to spend time on. If you’re reading this could you let me know for example on this discussion page? Also if you have ideas how to improve the weekly summaries please post them. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk)

Can you add me interwiki, with your bot? I can not Wikidata on not to have my item. Please add me if you interwiki wigh your bot on my user page. Greeting! --Kolega2357 (talk) 21:40, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean, users dont currently have wikidata items. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 13:13, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello Addshore, I need some advice. I am thinking about requesting adminship to be able to block users at WP:AIV, help out at WP:RPP, and do some work at WP:EWN. The problem is, I am not sure if any of the Wikipedia community will support my RFA. I am aware that I have a relatively low edit count, and have only been here for a few months. Notwithstanding, I understand all the policies behind administrator actions and I feel that I am capable of handling the responsibility. So my question is: should I give RFA a shot now, or should I wait? If I should wait, how long? Thanks — nerdfighter 21:09, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

I feel like you should probably wait for a few more months before you give it a shot! Try and get involved in as many areas as possible before your RFA, you have named some but I am sure there are more you are yet to dive into! :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 13:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I hope you remember the time in IRC what I said I'd attempt changing your code to Python. I'd actually done this some time ago, but was quite busy and hadn't tested it successfully until now (the script takes a long time to execute, and the last time, it had an error near the end, so it couldn't save after all that time, and I had to go offline soon, meaning it wouldn't have had the time to complete). Instead of saving to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/User talk templates, however, I saved it in Wikipedia:Sandbox. I've noticed there was a fairly large drop in the number of pages. Also, the list isn't properly sorted (I had it sorted in the code, but I just moved the sorter to after it removed duplicated titles, so maybe it's fixed now). How does it look?  Hazard-SJ  ✈  04:05, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm, I dont think it should have removed that many pages, although it is hard to check without a sorted list ;p ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 12:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I ran the updated script, now it gave this (now sorted :P).  Hazard-SJ  ✈  01:03, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

There are obvious things I need to remove from it like those ending with /sandbox and those in the talkspaces, but that would make the list even smaller :O  Hazard-SJ  ✈  01:07, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Just replying to acknowledge I have seen this reply and I am going to look at a diff between the two lists soon :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 01:27, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

my latest acheivement.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 16:45, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Where is the code? :) (is there a repo for it somewhere?) :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 16:49, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

No repo yet. That file was sliced into 35 chunks and uploaded individually using the API and pieced together with the API. All you do is feed Peachy and array of files instead of one and it automatically takes care of the rest. You can download the current stable alpha release here—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 18:03, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

you should stick it on github :) Then i can review your commits comment and maybe contribute :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:11, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Too slow and too clunky for me. Besides, I never can quite seem to get GitHub to work and online instruction manuals hasn't proven effective. If you can help me with a step by step instruction, I would like that. :p—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 18:14, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Windows or nix? :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:45, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

.Windows.—cyberpower _Offline^{Happy Easter} 10:50, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Download the windows program, install, make an account online, create a peachy repo, clone the empty repo to your computer, bump the code in it, commit from the app :) From my experience it is a bad idea to leave the windows app open as it will freeze after a while :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 11:27, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Will do once I fix a download bug in Peachy where it seems to download but not save.—cyberpower _Online^{Happy Easter} 23:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Awesome :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 01:28, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Addshore. How do I get Huggle to work for me? When I sign in, it says: "Huggle is not enabled for your account, check user configuration." But I have WP:Rollback. So I figured that I needed an administrator to enable the tool for me. I emailed Alison about it earlier this month, on March 15, but she has not yet gotten back to me about it. Today, an hour ago, I downloaded and tried to use WP:STiki, but it did not work correctly; it froze. Flyer22 (talk) 19:21, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

RTFM

mabdul 22:23, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Addshore's answer would be possible: Read that.

Yes, I'm aware of the instruction page about it, Mabdul. Thanks for trying to help. Flyer22 (talk) 22:26, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

You have not created a User:Flyer22/huggle.css, see User:Addshore/huggle.css, it must contain "enable:true" ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 01:30, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the reply/information, Addshore. Flyer22 (talk) 01:34, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem! Sorry I was a bit slow, but it is in the manual linked above ;p

Step 1: Go to Special:Mypage/huggle.css on a project where you want to use huggle (project needs to be have huggle installed, in case you need to enable it there, please contact developers in #huggle ^connect), insert

enable:true

onto the first line. This enables Huggle to run on your user account.

·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 01:36, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

The entry for the artist Carlos Betancourt may not measure up to scrutiny for a profile of a living person. One of the four citations is from the web site "Soul of Miami" which simply reprints press releases. Other citations are self-referential, to artist bios in shows. Surely there must be additional outside sources that can be quoted. (Most of the information is unattributed.)Beauhanks (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:12, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi there! You are best to talk about this on Talk:Carlos_Betancourt where contributors to the page will look! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 01:33, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Just for interest: Did your bot logged any edits of the 500 edits you made at lowp? I want to clear the rest! mabdul 13:48, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

They are all logged, I just need to create a web page to read from my DB! I am going to try and do this today! :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 13:12, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

You should see it appear here when it is working :) http://bots.wmflabs.org/~addbot/index.php?lang=lo ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 15:13, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Wow great. looks great. when do I get the rest of the pages? (or are these all pages?) mabdul 22:33, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Uhm, please correct the link, enwiki at the lowiki page (and likely at the other pages) is a bit "wrong" and useless... mabdul 16:19, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hah! I will fix that, must have been a copy and paste issue! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 01:28, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 13:44, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Its been migrating interwiki links so its provided by Wikidata, and people don't seem to like it. Steeldragon7 (talk) 01:13, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I have posted a note on your talk page. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 03:04, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Based on feedback for last week’s call for comments we will continue this newsletter. However more community help will be needed. From now on they’ll be drafted at d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next and your help is very welcome.

Hey Addshore, I'm not too knowledgeable about tags, but I'm wondering why the Addition of interwiki link tag filter 532 doesn't seem to catch anything these days. Del_♉sion23 (talk) 12:16, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I think the edit filter for it might have been turned off :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 15:08, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok, should probably have thought of that. By the way, thanks very much for the work on the lists at WMFLabs. Comes in really useful in finding interwiki conflicts and links that need adding to items. Del_♉sion23 (talk) 22:20, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hehe, np! Although I am not sure how up to date I am going to be able to keep it when there are still millions of articles in my DB. Once we get down to a few million rather than 13 things should become easier! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 23:25, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm assuming your one of the editors for the ABC Transporter page?

I would like to make a contribution to the ABC Transporter page. I'm a researcher that would like to talk about plant ABC transporters, while shedding some light on the B subfamily (ABCBs) because they have unique features that distinguish them from the general eukaryotic ABC transporters. I'd like to add about 3 paragraphs: 1) General unique characteristics of Plant ABC transporters 2) Specific ABCB's (ABCB1,ABCB19, and ABCB4, and possibly one more), and then 3) How recent research ties into the MDR and chemotherapy benefits that plant ABC transporters suggest.

My issue is I don't know where in the page to put it. Since I'm focusing just on the plants, I was thinking right below the Eurkaryotic. not sure, please let me know what you think. I just want it to blend nicely into the page. Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Duar9035 (talk • contribs) 15:23, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, and sorry for a very slugish reply (6 days really is bad on my part)!

I spotted your message over at Talk:ATP-binding_cassette_transporter. In regards to undoing one of your edits take a look at this page where you should be able to check each revision of the page and undo any where you have made errors!

If you still need any help feel free to post again on this page! :)

·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 03:52, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Chanced across the "Eguor Admin" grouping. Chose you and Nihonjoe at random after rejecting a couple with no recent activity. "Eguor administrators promise to offer a fair hearing to editors who present a well-documented case that they've been mishandled in some way. Burden of evidence rests squarely on the shoulders of the person who makes the assertion."

I was indef. blocked for sockpuppeting last May, but I didn't do it. The block was by way of Timotheus Canens who provided no warning, diff, or discussion. He was an admin at the time, now he's an arb. I see at Eguor I'm supposed to prove my case, but I can't prove a negative. I can say there's no proof I socked and no-one's ever furnished any circumstantial argument either. I've edited for several years, and did a WP:CLEANSTART after a WP:OUTING. You can see this in the first edit of my account[6].

It's accurate that I had a rough few early edits in the then-new account. I had only been a content editor, for years, but then got hauled into WP:ANI for trying to defend a WP:BLP. I encountered this whole new group of Wikipedia members that dwell almost entirely on the administrative side, no content. Not having any experience I didn't know how to respond. I was railroaded after the indef. I decided that I wasn't going to be bullied, and they weren't going to turn me into a sock which would be giving truth to the lie, so I started editing via IP and signing with my user ID. That is not a sock. Nobody ever listened and I didn't know what to do.

What else? I appealed to ArbCom, who rejected without explanation and demanded I divulge my previous account. I appealed to ArbCom again, by this time Timotheus Canens my blocker was an arb, and did not recuse himself. ArbCom however (this is important) did not block me, it only declined to lift my block. Any admin as far as I know can lift my block under policy, and an arb told me this. Why am I writing two Equor admins? Because if you decide to unblock me, you better be prepared for blowback, and I figure each of you could help the other. Anyhow, this is four paragraphs already, I better wrap it up. If you help me I promise I'll be straight with you, and try to fly high if I ever get back. This is Colton Cosmic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.6.21 (talk) 00:02, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, I have looked at everything you have said and looking into past edits actions of yours and others and I do not really think i am in a position to do anything. You have been blocked (in ways) by 3 admins who at the time would have had a much better idea (or proof) of what was happening and potentially with different data to hand (which can no longer be accessed). Also after your first block, you evaded your block by continuing to edit through ips which is in violation of policy which doesn't make your position any better :/.

In my eyes your best bet is to respect the block on Colton_Cosmic and decisions made by the admins involved and wait it out. You said that you "really cared about the articles" with your previous account, if you do there is technically nothing stopping an anonymous user from caring for those articles! (if you catch my drift).

Sorry I can't really help your current situation any more than with the above words but if you ever find yourself in need of advice again feel free to contact me (just don;t violate policy to do so) :)

·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 03:49, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

As one of the supporters of a related proposal in the 2013 RfC on RfA reform, you are invited to join the new WikiProject for RfA nominators. Please come and help shape this initiative. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 21:56, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Will take a look! Cheers! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 03:38, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

In relation to Addbot's massive project of migrating interwiki links, at least two connected articles have undergone interwiki link migration, but those links have not reappeared in English Wikipedia. Links to Danish Wikipedia and Dutch Wikipedia for Frederik van Pallandt as well as for Nina and Frederik were migrated on March 16, but [as of this writing, on April 9] have not reappeared in English Wikipedia [both Danish and Dutch articles, in each case, still retain their respective links to the two other languages]. In contrast, a third article, connected to the other two, Nina van Pallandt, whose links to German Wikipedia and Finnish Wikipedia, were also migrated on March 16, has no technical problems, with her interwiki links properly appearing across all three languages. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 21:11, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

(Talk page stalker replies): The second one, I'm afraid to say, you broke. Addbot, as near as I can tell, got the interwikilinks correct at the time (the NL and DA entries had been added in January by BeneBot, and Addbot removed the links on the ENWIKI article in March.) but when you moved the page on April 9th, the interwiki link didn't go with it. because our infrastructure doesn't deal correctly with articles being moved out from under WikiData. (I corrected the Wikidata entry.) --j⚛e decker^talk 01:24, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry, this is only a problem in the short term, Things such as this will be resolved automatically in the not too distant future! :) thanks for the links! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 03:40, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello. You are invited to join WikiProject Admin Nominators, a project which aims to support editors interested in nominating at Requests for Adminship. We hope that you will join and help to shape the new project. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • Sign AAPT) 21:16, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Love this, but there are a growing number of dupes in the list. You probably knew that but FYI.  :) --j⚛e decker^talk 16:15, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Yep I know :/ this is due to the database being too big to do what I need to (and set the fields to be unique)... I have just re written the main bot execution and this should slowly solve the problem :) Take a look at this page and the graph that says 'DB enteries pending deletion'. I don't have the main script which checks the pages delete duplicates as this wastes too much time, instead I have a seperate script read from another list and slowly delete them. Also a quick note about that page, the number of links are not going to be changing each time the bot checks any more :/ it is just too much to maintain at such a high speed for such a number of articles. They will still be removed from the list when they have no links left. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 16:19, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Cool! I'm having trouble getting to those pages right now, permissions fu, but thanks for the info about updates, and thank you for making this work, it is very cool.  :) --j⚛e decker^talk 21:01, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Something change the permissions of the folder the web files were stored in so you couldn't access them, Have fixed it now as you can see :) And np :) its all for a good cause right? ;p ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 03:38, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

If you cant get to the old page this should work :). Also just to let you know everything is being updated on those pages again (including the number of links left) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:29, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

ERR, PLEASE ALSO FOR LOWP. ;-) meh, caps lock... mabdul 20:29, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Its there already, :P the page has a big long list for every lang ;p ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 20:46, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

The "last" 9 iw are already fixed. I highly doubt that there aren't any more as there is at least some links listed at lo:ຜູ້ໃຊ້:Legobot/Wikidata/General... Would you rerun the bot? XD mabdul 21:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I just found 217 in another db table, I will try to move them into the current db now! (also remember the bot is always running but it just hasn't got around to getting back to the lo articles apparently...(it does have 10,000,000 articles to look at after all))·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 21:07, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

No hurry! I will try to decrease the AFC backlog at this weekend (see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/wikignome). Moreover I'm working on the AFC helper script. So I will have enough work to do. ;-) mabdul 21:10, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can tell they have started appearing already ;p ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 21:12, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Heh, then I will have to do something productive tomorrow at work. ^^ mabdul 21:15, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Fun times :D ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 21:16, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Based on feedback for last week’s call for comments we will continue this newsletter. However more community help will be needed. From now on they’ll be drafted at d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next and your help is very welcome.

Hi, beginning yesterday, I've noticed that Addbot is migrating interlanguage links for pages in User space. To me, this goes against d:Wikidata:Requests for comment/Inclusion of non-article pages. If it doesn't, how can I prevent my own user pages from being migrated? --Redrose64 (talk) 08:51, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I have reverted these edits and removed from WD, in the process of fixing now, thanks for spotting! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:43, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

This should now be fixed :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

You forgot that Warren Chappell illustrated William McCleery's 1947 Wolf Story, a Borzoi imprint of Alfred A. Knopf. ISBN 0-208-02191-468.112.30.67 (talk) 16:17, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Barbara Huet de Guerville

I am not exactly sure what you are referring to. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:18, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Could you please install python-twisted, sqlite, sqlite3, and the latest JRE (1.7) on bots-gs? It would be much appreciated --Rschen7754 02:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Greetings, Addshore/Archive 15! If we have not met, I'm AutomaticStrikeout. I've come here to ask you to take part in the survey at User:AutomaticStrikeout/Are admins interested in a RfB?. I am trying to gauge the general level of interest that administrators have in running for cratship, as well as pinpoint the factors that affect that interest level. Your input will be appreciated. Happy editing, AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • Sign AAPT) 01:39, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I have some concerns about the closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mabel Richardson as keep, as I am not sure how you came to that conclusion. There were two keep !votes for every delete, but of the six people who suggested keep, two were new users who went straight to deletion debates upon signing up, one was user who has made a few edits since signing in late December, all of which were to longevity articles, one was the article creator, and no one provided any policy-based or source-based rationale for their !vote, but instead used their subjective judgement on what they felt was notable. While I certainly don't believe that there was a consensus to delete, given the history of canvassing offline about longevity articles (among other problems with articles such as these), I believe that relisting the debate to allow for more unbiased/neutral opinions would have been appropriate in this case. I'm considering a deletion review, but I figured I'd discuss it with you first. Canadian Paul 20:58, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

After looking back at the AFD I stand by my decision, feel free to take it to deletion review. During the AFD I feel that there was progress in the article and hopfully that will continue. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 21:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and done it here. Nothing personal here at all; I just want a few extra eyes on the situation. If I'm in the wrong on this one (it happens more than sometimes), I'll be over it, haha. Canadian Paul 20:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Not taken personally at all, it happens more than sometimes to me also :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 21:25, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey there i just added a new photo to Weymouth Beach page and i seen you uploaded the last thing. This is my first upload to Wikipedia and think ive saved it the wrong way or buggered up. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jake6411 (talk • contribs) 08:13, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I've fixed the problem. The gallery needed closing off. I added a comment on Jake6411's talk page. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 08:47, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Cheers! :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Just noticed a small error your bot User:Addbot has made at Service level requirement. It changed the date attribute of {{Multiple issues}} into a {{date}} template. Just want you to known. :P —— Pchackal (talk) 09:49, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

To me it doesn't look like the template needs this any longer as all of the templates held within are dated :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:53, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

hi

Hello ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 19:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

I've started a Peachy project space on Labs. I'm also transitioning Cyberbot I and II over. I'll invite you to the project once I have it set up. It will host a MediaWiki installation.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 00:10, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Sounds lovely, cant wait to take a look at the code and hopefully shunt some of my tasks into it :P ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 08:10, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick pickup on that RevDel.  :) --j⚛e decker^talk 22:37, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Haha, No problem :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 22:38, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Can you do me a favor and take a look at User_talk:Werieth#Family_of_Secrets_cover_image and the related OTRS ticket? Werieth (talk) 17:31, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I have uploaded the image they submitted to commons with permissions and I have deleted the old file. I will now reply on your talk page! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Hate to keep bugging you, can you take a look at the files on Sam Francis? Werieth (talk) 23:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)x

I have found the ticket and am currently dealing with it :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:48, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Any update on the Sam Francis case? Werieth (talk) 16:15, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

It is currently pending a response from the ticket owner. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 16:19, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, see this one, it is only linked as an "otheruses" link. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 20:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

I have no clue if Addbot is exclusion complaint but I have placed Template:Bots on the page until Addshore has fixed this. -- Cheers, Riley 22:35, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

The task now ignores pages with no bots on until such a time that I can think of a way to make the task ignore such incoming links automatically. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:01, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I see that you deleted this as F8, thereby closing the discussion at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2013 April 22#File:Olympics-hidy-howdy.jpg. Maybe you can explain in the deletion discussion why you think that "The image's license and source status is beyond reasonable doubt, and the license is undoubtedly accepted at Commons" as required per WP:CSD#F8? --Stefan2 (talk) 22:03, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Initially when I looked at the image the licence looked fine and had not been changed in years. Apparently I did not spot the deletion discussion on either EN or Commons in this case and went ahead and deleted the file under F8 which I now agree was wrong. Looking further into this further I feel this image should be merged with File:Hidy_and_Howdy.jpg which is identical and uploaded around the same time. For now I will restore the image and reopen the deletion discussion on en. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:18, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

File:Hidy_and_Howdy.jpg was uploaded on the 24th of April, 2013, Olympics-hidy-howdy.jpg was uploaded in 2007. -- 70.24.250.103 (talk) 09:04, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

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A glitch [not due to any action by Addbot] can be spotted at the William Henderson disambiguation page interwiki link to German Wikipedia, which goes to German Wikipedia's sub-disambiguation page for Bill Henderson (to limit proliferation of sub-disambiguation pages, English Wikipedia combines all William/Will/Willie/Bill/Billy redirects under the overall umbrella of "William"). However, German Wikipedia's disambiguation page for "William Henderson" has no such problem and properly points its interwiki link to "William Henderson" in English Wikipedia. Thus, German Wikipedia's interwiki link points in the right direction, but the equivalent link in English Wikipedia goes to German Wikipedia's "Bill", instead of "William". —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 21:45, 28 April 2013 (UTC) hiu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.9.219 (talk) 23:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

My apologies, wrong user.. ___ Guillaume — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbardon (talk • contribs) 09:59, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Addshore, for all you have done improving my awful English at "Julian Bourdeu". And I really mean it.--Febusmefe (talk) 19:25, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello, to resolve an ongoing neutrality dispute on the Blue Army (Poland) page, I'm requesting any assistance possible from experienced Wikipedia editors to look at the 'Controversies' section of the Blue Army page, and review the text for possible bias. I'm not an seasoned Wikipedia contributor myself, in fact I don't really edit much at all. But, when I came across the Blue Army page, I was taken aback by the blunt and inaccurate way in which the subject matter was portrayed! The list of possible neutrality violations is extensive, and due to my novice editor status all my past attempts to modify the text have been dismissed as being disruptive, and subsequently reversed:

Possible neutrality issues found on the Blue Army (Poland) 'Controversies' section: Neutrality Tag is constantly being taken down without reaching a final consensus on the subject matter. Weasel word are used to create an overall exaggerated impression of the events in question, and others are used to cast doubt on anything reported by the Polish side as being legitimate. POV and the use of questionable secondary source references, which contradict primary source accounts of the events. In this case the investigation conducted by the United States envoy to Poland Hugh S. Gibson and his subsequent State Department report on the issue. The American envoy found that: many of the newspaper reports alleging antisemitism were planted by the German and Soviet governments, and had been inflated or even based on hearsay and confabulation. Also, the envoy reported that many of the "pogroms" were in fact food riots, where an even larger number of Christian shops were ransacked. Undue Weight specific events are taken out of context, such as: abuse of civilians during the military campaign by the Blue Army troops is automatically labeled as antisemitic. Thus, taken out of context, when in fact looting was not only restricted to jewish households.

In the end, I understand that this is a difficult subject matter, and that some of the troops did engage in open antisemitism. But, by breaking the above listed neutrality rules, the editor (Faustian) who wrote much of the section, is creating a false picture of the Blue Army, in which the reader comes away with the bias impression that "Pogroming" is the only thing the Blue Army did.

Again, for a quick snapshot of the primary source's account of the events, please see the United States envoy Hugh S. Gibson Wikipedia page. And, thank you for any assistance in this matter. --68.191.79.36 (talk) 21:35, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Dear Addshore, I've been using Huggle for a while now, but since a few months, it stopped autoreporting users after a final warning. I think it may have something to do with me becoming a steward late February. Huggle probably thinks I'm an administrator here. Do you know if/how this can be fixed? Kind regards, Mathonius (talk) 03:54, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

If it is detecting you as an admin you should be able to go into the option window, click on the 'Admin' tab and untick the two boxes in there. I think this should then report users to AIV again :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:23, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Addshore! I'll try it as soon as I have time to use Huggle again. Regards, Mathonius (talk) 09:47, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem, if it doesn't work then just pop back :) Naturally it is rather hard for me to test as I am not a steward ;p ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:48, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Addshore, I had the time and the opportunity to try it out this morning. Both boxes on the admin tab were unticked, but it didn't autoreport this user after the final level warning, so I used Twinkle for reporting instead. It's not a big problem, but it would be awesome if Huggle autoreported again. There's a local configuration folder on my PC mentioning "Block user;66;-1;0;0," and "Report user;66;0;0;0,", among other things. Maybe a change there could fix it? Mathonius (talk) 04:18, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I think its best for you to just wait for us to release huggle3 ;p ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:55, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay. I can't wait! Thanks, Mathonius (talk) 21:26, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I will try and remember to personally invite you to trial it once it is in some sort of working order before re release ;p ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:42, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Cyberbot II 2.  :-)—cyberpower ^Chat_Offline 03:02, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Pong ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:28, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Ping :p—cyberpower ^Chat_Offline 10:31, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Pong! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:41, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello Addshore, I noticed your bot is active with moving interwikis from Wikipedias to Wikidata. Is it possible to request for handling some interwikis on the Dutch (nl) Wikipedia first? In specific the interwikis from the template (sjabloon) namespace and the category (categorie) namespace, later perhaps also the article namespace. Currently I am working on cleaning all these pages from interwikis, solving all interwiki conflict, but I noticed that the moving of interwikis has slowed down the past days, so I hope that the moving of interwikis can be completed. Also it would be nice if we can get a list of templates and other pages where there is some interwiki conflict. Can you help me with this request? Thanks in advance! Romaine/Romaine (talk) 22:19, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I had noticed the bot had slowed down recently too. I looked into it and it turns out I had removed it from the crontab on the server meaning it was slowly stopping. I have re added the bot to the cron and it is now running again. It should manage to scan over every article on the wiki in its DB ion a matter of hours or a day so keep your eye on the list. Any further problems just post a message here! Cheers! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:30, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello Addshore, I just did a check with my bot on what templates an interwikilink to the English Wikipedia still is present and I found more than 850 templates where this was the case. Also I have seen a lot of interwikilinks to other languages too. You would make me really happy if you would process those interwikilinks soon. I want to get the namespace of templates and categories clean. Thanks! Romaine (talk) 07:15, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, In bot report the links which has space replaced with + and it is broken for example here please click on الگو:جعبه اطلاعات حزب سیاسی/توضیحات it redirects to الگو:جعبه+اطلاعات+حزب+سیاسی/توضیحات. yours, Yamaha5 (talk) 21:23, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

This should be fixed with this change and you should see the effects in a few mins! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:26, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

This regarding Dairy Farm Simulator.

I don't get why Dairy Farm Simulator gets removed while others like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Nations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_Architect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtonomics

Still are up their. Dairy Farm Simulator is an unique. It is the first and only game out their that ever was create of this genre being as realistic as possible. That's why it should be up on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickNZVDM (talk • contribs) 01:56, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi there! The reason the article was deleted was because the article did 'not indicate the importance or significance of the subject'. If you look at the differences between the article on Dairy Farm Simulator and the other articles that you have linked to you will see that all of the other articles carry references in the references section to other sources, Dairy Farm Simulator did not have any. Try to find some to reference the content in the article and it may then stay! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 11:48, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

A discussion that may interest you is occurring at Wikiproject TAFI's talk page at: Proposal: use Theo's Little Bot to automate the schedule and queue. Northamerica1000^(talk) 13:48, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello! I answered on Bot owners' noticeboard. --Emaus (talk) 19:04, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

unblocked ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 20:54, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_bureaucratship/addshore

Accept. Answer. Go to a pub. :P

Petrb (talk) 15:07, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Like. Legoktm (talk) 17:16, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Accepted ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:12, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Change 540279491 on the Volvariella volvacea page broke an image. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozymandias42 (talk • contribs) 04:00, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Ozymandias42, Please see that this was not done by the bots change but instead by the change here made by User:Breugelius ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:15, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

D'oh, you're right. Misread that, sorry :) --Ozymandias42 (talk) 16:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

No worries :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 17:17, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Addshore. I mean here. Should the root server password edit be rev-del'd? --Shirt58 (talk) 10:28, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

No, we're all about open content here at the WMF. But thanks for your concern ;-) -- ArielGlenn (talk) 10:31, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

If it were the actual root password then I feel something more than a revdel would be needed ;p. Luckily LeslieCarr did not give it out this time! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:34, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll take your word for that: Nerds to the rescue and so on. To be honest, I only know that a root name server is something to with teh interwebs. On the other hand, I think the ability to speak Middle English or tell the difference between a Manet and a Monet at a glance is being well-educated, and in no way nerdly. --Shirt58 (talk) 11:26, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Hehe, you should be looking at Root_user :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 12:12, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Facepalm. Add§hore, I fed the troll. I am aware that there are things called "Unix", "C" (and its + and ++-s) "Python", and Wikipedia specifically and the Series of tubes in general uses 'em. I just don't have much of a clue how they all work. Oh, yes: the Salon des Refusés most famously refers to the "Salon des Refusés" of 1863, but also more broadly refers to the early works of the Impressionists rejected by the Académie des Beaux-Arts in the 1870s and 1880s. What? Me Nerdy? --Shirt58 (talk) 13:29, 28 May 2013 (UTC)