Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 8

• Propose merging Category:Anti-Israeli sentiment in the United States to Category:Anti-Zionism in the United States

Nominator's rationale: Purge as well as merge. This is a new category which duplicates another and also conflates Judaism and Israel. User:Namiba 16:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Procedural oppose, it belongs to a wider tree under Category:Anti-Israeli sentiment so it needs broader discussion. Substantively, it may be different in other parts of the world but where I live the term Zionism is completely outdated. So I would rather lean to a reverse merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Novara Media (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Little more than a WP:PERFCAT. Association with individuals listed is undefined, see WP:OCASSOC. --woodensuperman 16:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Family of William Jennings Bryan to Category:Bryan family (United States)

Nominator's rationale: William Jennings Bryan was one of many notable family members so I think centering him is not the best way forward. It is Category:Bryan family (William Jennings Bryan family) in Wikimedia Commons. User:Namiba 15:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:20th-century French male classical pianists to Category:French male classical pianists and Category:20th-century French classical pianists and Category:20th-century French male pianists
• Propose merging Category:21st-century French women classical pianists to Category:French women classical pianists and Category:21st-century French classical pianists and Category:21st-century French women pianists
• Propose merging Category:21st-century French male classical pianists to Category:French male classical pianists and Category:21st-century French classical pianistsand Category:21st-century French male pianists
• Propose merging Category:21st-century British women classical pianists to Category:British women classical pianists and Category:21st-century British classical pianistsand Category:21st-century British women pianists
• Propose merging Category:20th-century German male classical pianists to Category:German male classical pianists and Category:20th-century German classical pianistsand Category:21st-century German male pianists
• Propose merging Category:21st-century German male classical pianists to Category:German male classical pianists and Category:21st-century German male pianists

Nominator's rationale: I don't think we need to diffuse at the 5-way intersection of nationality, gender, century, instrument, and genre, especially since there isn't a FOOian-century male classical pianists or FOOian-century women classical pianists parent. ^SMason_Garrison 12:49, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Pleuronectiformes to Category:Pleuronectoidei

Nominator's rationale: The flatfish are now considered to be a subgroup of Carangiformes by recent sources (including Eschmeyer's Catalog of Fishes, which the fish wikiproject has decided to follow). —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 10:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Template:Pleuronectiformes-stub to Template:Pleuronectoidei-stub

Nominator's rationale: See post above for justification. And the stub category should be moved to Category:Pleuronectoidei stubs. —Trilletrollet [ Talk | Contribs ] 10:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Fictional space units and formations to Category:Fictional military organizations

Nominator's rationale: Only has one actual space unit, Starfleet. The others are just fiction that happens to contain a space organization, but this fails WP:NONDEF. Depending on whether one might consider Starfleet "military", it could just be moved to Category:Fictional government agencies or Category:Fictional organizations. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming: Category:Fuji TV to Category:Fuji Television
• Propose renaming: Category:Fuji TV original programming to Category:Fuji Television original programming
• Propose renaming: Category:Fuji TV dramas to Category:Fuji Television dramas

Nominator's rationale: Official full station name VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 01:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename per article title Fuji Television. This could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Fictional astronomical objects to Category:Fictional astronomical locations

Nominator's rationale: Seems to be somewhat redundant, no real evidence we need a category for objects specifically as it is hardly populated. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. This would reverse the split for which I found consensus at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 September 19#Category:Fiction about astronomical locations; courtesy ping to the nominator of that CFD, LaundryPizza03. Nom appears to be made in good faith, as the current subcats are within the other parent Category:Fiction about astronomical objects via another route. However, other contents (see [1]) had previously been removed by Jontesta and other editors: Star Trek star redirects Beta Magellan and Beta Renner (which I accept are non-notable), the neutron star Dragon's Egg, Krypton's sun Rao (comics), and the asteroid base Demons Run. I have reinstated the latter three (one article and two redirects), plus another redirect 2008 NQ17, after which the category is again more worthwhile. – Fayenatic London 09:33, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge per nom. There is only one article about a fictional astronomical object here. I supported the previous CFD for the rename, but the split was unnecessary and excessive. Jontesta (talk) 16:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Jontesta has removed the article Dragon's Egg again, since that article is in a more specific category for works of fiction; I have therefore added a redirect Dragon's Egg (neutron star) instead. This slightly weakens the case for retention. – Fayenatic London 16:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Replying with more information, there are hundreds of articles about sci-fi novels/games/movies, but they belong in Category:Fiction about stars. I strongly disagree with duplicating those novels into redirects to justify a category without real articles. But I let the redirects stand until we decide if this category is necessary. Jontesta (talk) 16:18, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Librarians from Puerto Rico to Category:Puerto Rican librarians

Nominator's rationale: Aligning with other subcategories of Category:Puerto Rican people by occupation ForsythiaJo (talk) 00:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Rename per nom. This could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]