User talk:Escarbot

Bonjour,

Je suis un Wikipédien français. Merci de me contacter sur fr:Discussion_Utilisateur:Vargenau.

Hello,

I am a French Wikipedian. Please contact me on fr:Discussion_Utilisateur:Vargenau.

Hallo,

Ich bin ein französischer Wikipedia Benutzer. Bitte gehen Sie zu : fr:Discussion_Utilisateur:Vargenau.

Your Bayer designations in Swedish are incorrect: Alpha is Alfa in Swedish, Omicron is Omikron, and so on. You have to look this up or stop filling in Swedish Bayer designations. Deryni (talk) 17:37, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The good thing on Wikidata was/is that brackets should be avoided. Your bot changing these things back to brackets. Florentyna (talk) 18:30, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such language specification as “simple”. Why do you add records for a key which is not recognized by the Wikidata UI? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 13:17, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't their Wikipedia already renamed to be-tarask:? Aren't the rest have plans to rename their codes? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I have updated my bot script not to update:

• "als", "bat-smg", "be-x-old", "bh", "fiu-vro", "no", "roa-rup", "simple", "zh-classical", "zh-min-nan", "zh-yue"

But I do not seem to be able to update in the alternate languages:

• "gsw", "sgs", "be-tarask", "bho", "vro", "nb", "rup", "simple", "lzh", "nan", "yue"

How should that be done?

Vargenau (talk) 09:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vargenau: Well, all are good now, except for simple, which I suggest you to, when detecting simple name, add it as alias of just en. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:39, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please also fix the labels you added. For example, Luxembourgish (Q9051) still has labels in als, be-x-old, no, simple, zh-min-nan and zh-yue added by you. - Nikki (talk) 07:44, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello? It's been three months since I asked you fix your edits and I'm still finding ones which haven't been fixed. - Nikki (talk) 14:20, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See e.g. this history. I ask again: why? --bdijkstra (overleg) 13:57, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Please add the check to your code whether Wikipedia labels don't equal to other projects labels. Look also at this category. --Infovarius (talk) 15:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vargenau: please stop, these edits are not improving Wikidata. --bdijkstra (overleg) 07:57, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vargenau: can you restore wrongly changed labels as in [1]? You can instead add such aliases. --Infovarius (talk) 21:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm not sure these edits are the best solution. I mean Q752245 is the aspect ratio 1.85:1. It could be called "Widescreen", but not all the "Widescreen" aspect ratios are 1.85:1. So it is causing a mess across many wikis. Can you fix it? -- Basilicofresco (talk) 19:28, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Please do not change the labels on Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) [2]. This item is not only about Wikipedia but also about all other sister projects. In general, please do not modify labels if there are sitelinks not only to Wikipedia but also to sister projects. --Pasleim (talk) 14:29, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

It's noted.

Vargenau (talk) 08:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You did the same again on Q4847210. Please stop your bot until it doesn't mess up. --LydiaPintscher (talk) 19:44, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The same applies to any item of a project page or category page which has sitelinks to several single-language wikis. There is no rule that says that the label should match the Wikipedia sitelink, is there? Please, at least don't change the label if the intended label is already part of the aliases. --bdijkstra (overleg) 20:51, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Vargenau: The problem persists. Please stop the bot from importing labels from Wikipedia and that way denying the existence of projects other than wikipedia. Taylor 49 (talk) 17:04, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Can you provide a list of pages that should not be updated? I do not see how to search them. Vargenau (talk) 17:23, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Vargenau: Not a list but a criteria: As already written before by other people, the bot should NOT stipulate the title picked from wikipedia if there are links to other types of wikis (commons, meta, wiktionary, wikiversity, ...). Taylor 49 (talk) 19:18, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is a huge number of pages, the vast majority of them have the Wikipedia label. We have to to find a more restrictive criteria. Vargenau (talk) 11:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(@User:Lymantria, User:Pasleim) So the bot can save a huge amount of work by not replacing existing labels for items linked to other types of wikis (commons, meta, wiktionary, wikiversity, ...). NOT all WMF wikis are wikipedia, and the fact that wikipedia is biggest and most known still does NOT give your bot the right to overrun all the others like a bulldozer. 17:08, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

What is it doing at [3]? Spanish label should be the film title in Spanish --- Jura 19:44, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you stop this [4]? The label you are adding isn't consistent with what we are using for TV seasons. --- Jura 19:58, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have blocked the bot account awaiting repair of the script, so that issues be solved. Lymantria (talk) 11:23, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can do test edits. (@Jura1: in order to check that issues have been repaired). Lymantria (talk) 16:11, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Five dutch ([nl]) labels were changed, but the labels were not wrong: 1 2 3 4 5. Also, if you (correctly) set a label, you should check the aliases which the bot didn't do. --bdijkstra (overleg) 10:13, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

According to the comment at Wikidata:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#Special:Contributions/Escarbot, it shouldn't have edited this items as it's not a category nor a template. --- Jura 09:54, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, I am starting to get a bit annoyed by these edits :). – Máté (talk) 07:27, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @Lymantria: I had checked a few edits after you deblocked it, they all seemed fine, but the edit mentioned by Mate is repeating the problems we had before and for which it was blocked. --- Jura 07:31, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I reblocked the bot, awaiting further repair of the bot script. Both users Bdijkstra and Máté have pointed to problems that need mending. Lymantria (talk) 08:14, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • The bot does a lot of useful edits by completing labels (similar to @Matěj_Suchánek:'s ).
      I'm not entirely convinced by the automatic updates of labels even for categories and templates. Maybe adding new page names as aliases is sufficient. Wikidata provides stable identifiers and if the Wikipedia moves pages around this doesn't necessarily mean the former name should be discarded.
      Also, it seems to give priority to Wikipedia: This may not matter for some languages, but Commons and English Wikipedia frequently have different English names for the same category and an automated overwrite with Wikipedia's isn't necessarily optimal. --- Jura 09:54, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

# ca. 500 results
SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?itemDescription (lang(?l) as ?lang) ?l
{
	hint:Query hint:optimizer "None".
    ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q11424 ; rdfs:label ?l . 
    FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P1476 ?l }
    FILTER( contains(?l, ":") && strends(?l, ")") && contains(?l, "(")  )
	SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
}

The above finds more labels that need to be fixed.

A few were fixed since [5], some I had already fixed once before [6].--- Jura 11:00, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

#58 results
SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?itemDescription (lang(?l) as ?lang) ?l
{
	hint:Query hint:optimizer "None".
    ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q5398426 ; rdfs:label ?l . 
    FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P1476 ?l }
    FILTER( contains(?l, ":") && strends(?l, ")") && contains(?l, "(")  )
	SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
}

Similarly, TV series (query above): [7][8] --- Jura 11:31, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This edit is problematic. There are two Categoria:Bryophyta in Latin, and the distinction is necessary. The Latin word "Bryophyta" can mean "mosses" or "bryophytes", and these are two different things. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you do this: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q10035864&diff=prev&oldid=1861302049 ? I started adding ", x country", because I've found it very helpfull. Hjart (talk) 09:12, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Veuillez excuser la traduction automatique. Dans de nombreuses versions japonaises des projets Wikimédia, le nom de l'espace de noms de catégorie est « カテゴリ » au lieu de « Category ». S'il vous plaît, agissez. 影佑樹 (talk) 15:00, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In Special:Diff/1972442224, you removed the tg-latn (Tajik in Latin script) and zh-hant (Traditional Chinese) descriptions, leaving only tg (Tajik, which uses Cyrillic) and zh (Simplified Chinese). These use different scripts so shouldn't be removed. I don't think you should be automatically removing descriptions that aren't identical in general. - Nikki (talk) 11:18, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since you've not responded to anyone here in over three years and the bot is actively making bad edits, I've blocked the bot. - Nikki (talk) 11:27, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikki

Hello,

The descriptions that my bot removes are useless. There is no tg-latn or zh-hant Wikipedia, so there will never be an tg-latn or zh-hant category.

The descriptions in these languages might be useful for real-world things, but not for categories that are Mediawiki technical objects.

Some bots add category descriptions for more than 100 languages, an I find this counter-productive as it makes it difficult to edit by hand, you have to scroll to edit.

And it adds no information.

The user will know it is a category in his own language with P31.

Best regards, Vargenau (talk) 13:10, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They're not useless. Descriptions exist to describe items in the user's interface language, and are mainly used when searching to help people find what they're looking for (including identifying which of the results are not what they're looking for). tg-latn and zh-hant are both interface languages, and P31 is not shown in the search results.

The Tajik and Chinese Wikipedias are Wikipedias which use multiple scripts, so there isn't a one-to-one connection between the sitelink and the language codes for them. Wikipedia is not the only Wikimedia project either. For multilingual projects, there is even less of a connection between the sitelinks and the languages used.

- Nikki (talk) 18:11, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikki

Hello,

I do not get your point.

As I said above, the descriptions are useful in all languages, but not for categories.

The first use case is when the user is on a category page. In that case, he will know that it is a category thanks to P31 (if Q4167836 has the translation in this language).

The second use case is when the user is doing a search as you mention. If the user searches for "維基媒體分類" (which is the hant description that my bot removed) he will get 20 random category pages (and some mislabelled pages) from a total of more 5 millon pages. That is not useful at all.

On a different topic, I agree that I did no answer to some requests on this page. That is simply because I had not seen them. It is clearly stated at the top of this page that you must contact me on my user page where I get automatically notified.

Best regards, Vargenau (talk) 14:48, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]